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2006-11-25 11:45:41 AM
delphi135
Seeing that Delphi 7 is neither sold (or I assume supported) it now looks as
if it is legal for me to remove the product activation (if only I had
the skills!!)
www.joystiq.com/2006/11/23/us-copyright-office-grants-abandonware-rights/
 

Karl writes:
cracked about 2 minutes after it came out.. like most products, but it
is curious that basically once its not supported or sold it implies its
not ilegal to have a warez copy. All you need to do is know where to
find it.
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The problem's are
01) How is "abandoned" defined?
02) Is "Delphi 7" the product (which no longer receives updates) or is
"Delphi" the product and "7" the version? If it is the latter (which I
suspect it is) this means that even Delphi 1 is not abandonware because the
product Delphi is still maintained.
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Karl writes:
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Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
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Karl writes:
in Sweden for almost a decade (as, afaik, a lot of other jurisdictions
including some US states). The basic principle is that you are allowed
to do what it takes[*] in order to get the software to work with your
hardware and other software (such as OS or accessibility tools),
regardless of what the license says and regardless of any mechanisms
built into the software. I think that it is important to note that the
principle really isn't that you are allowed to do whatever you want with
abandonware. Legally, if you want to argue that you had the right to
crack a software for which you own a license, the only relevant question
is whether or not you *had to* crack it in order to use it.
[*] which of course might just mean installing an official patch if
there is one.
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"Nick Hodges (CodeGear)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
<quote>
2.3 Furthermore, at any point in time during the term of the Support and
Maintenance Service, only the following Borland Products will be covered:-
a) Major Releases of Borland products released less than two years and six
months before the relevant time; and b) any subsequent Minor or Maintenance
Releases, Service Packs or Hotfixes issued in respect thereof.
</quote>
According to this, unless there is another Delphi 7 update due out very soon,
Delphi 7 will no longer be covered by support in less than a month from now.
The last Delphi 7 update was on 28 May 2004.
 

Am 25 Nov 2006 01:41:04 -0700 schrieb Nick Hodges (CodeGear):
thanks,
Helmut
 

"Karl" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
right here on newsgroups.borland.com --JohnH
 

Michael
 

"John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net>writes
relevant is:
<quote>
We do not offer any formal support in these newsgroups
</quote>
info.borland.com/newsgroups/
 

Liz writes:
of course) that some major feature (say de{*word*81}) does not work under
Windows Vista. Would we get an update, or should we feel abandoned?
Depending on an answer to that question we could (or could not) say that
D7 is abandoned. To me, support would not mean much if I couldn't run
D7 on Vista. The fact that CG is still willing to sell it, doesn't mean
it is NOT abandoned either.
Or have I missed something?
Dejan
 

Michael Baytalsky writes:
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Dejan Stankovic writes:
ran on windows 3.11, if the suport for that was still granted, it may
not suit you, but its still supported.
--
Liz the Brit
Delphi things I have released: www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings
 

Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
unable to buy it even from borland.
Supported? The last time Borland did anything to "support" Delphi 7 was
before the release of D2005 (and the last time D2005 was supported was
before the release of the current version)...
Selling a product isn't supporting it Nick. I am sorry, but Borland has
the worst product service on the planet for a company that is still in
business.
A trend I hope CodeGear changes, but frankly, I kinda doubt it -
Surprise me, go back and make D2005 usable and fix the VCL bugs that
have been found since 2005 and 2006 for D7.