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Trevor de Koekkoek
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2003-12-29 07:33:44 AM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
"TW" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
Quotewww.theinquirer.net/ are aware, free is not free when development costs are so inhibitive, and what Delphi and .NET have brought to the table are huge productivity gains that are not seen in most open source and Java initiatives. -Trevor |
Ben Hochstrasser [FF]
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2003-12-29 07:44:10 AM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Trevor de Koekkoek writes:
QuoteAnd as most Delphi developers AFAIK it wasn't us developers whom the companies installed Windows for... -- Ben Mach es wie die Eieruhr - zähl die weichen Eier nur! |
Trevor de Koekkoek
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2003-12-29 08:16:25 AM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from MicrosoftQuoteUmmm, yeah, okay. But does the average CFO care? How many companies do in- for available software. I am not sure the situation is much different today than it was a year or 2 ago as the article implies. |
Ben Hochstrasser [FF]
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2003-12-29 06:27:58 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Trevor de Koekkoek writes:
QuoteI'm not sure the situation is much different today web/java based applets continues I don't see really big white spots on the Linux software map. This, of course, very much depends on the business you're in. -- Ben |
Dave Jewell
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2003-12-29 06:59:53 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
"Trevor de Koekkoek" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteThis article is just so anti-Microsoft with no base in reality. The Dave |
Marco Caspers
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2003-12-29 07:26:42 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Ben Hochstrasser [FF] writes:
[snip] QuoteI guess with OpenOffice + Mail + News + Internet the average office actual users. They don't like something new as it is different from what they're used to. Also from a managability standpoint, linux is a nightmare.. New patches are released on a daily basis. If something gets messed up i put back a 'ghost' immage of the harddrive. It's much more time efficient to do it that way than to spend a lot of time trying to figure out if it is a layer 8 issue or something else that's f'd up.. Because i can do the same with MS products, and i don't get complaining users that tell me they don't like the way things work differently the choice is easy.. |
JQP
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2003-12-29 09:44:26 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
"Ben Hochstrasser [FF]" <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch>writes
QuoteI guess with OpenOffice + Mail + News + Internet the average office PC is running. |
German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone)
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2003-12-29 09:47:52 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
El Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:26:42 -0700, Marco Caspers escribi?
QuoteAlso from a managability standpoint, linux is a nightmare.. nigthmarew? QuoteNew patches are released on a daily basis. If something gets German. |
Ben Hochstrasser [FF]
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2003-12-29 09:59:01 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
JQP writes:
QuoteThe best hope for Linux on the desktop is to replace the desktop with -- Ben |
Ben Hochstrasser [FF]
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2003-12-29 09:59:19 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Marco Caspers writes:
QuoteIt's much more time efficient to do it that way than to spend a lot of us programmers. I wish we'd be a bit more open towards alternative operating systems and saved some of the dotnet "feu sacr? for that field too. Ah, I see, it's the famous and arrogand "not invented here" attitude that already cost the IT industry so and so many jobs...good luck. -- Ben Mach es wie die Eieruhr - zähl die weichen Eier nur! |
Rain Bo
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2003-12-29 10:01:37 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Ben Hochstrasser [FF] writes:
Quotea diskless client oh! you wrote, "diskless". -- R. |
Marcello Dias
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2003-12-29 11:37:36 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
"TW" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
Quotewww.theinquirer.net/ Gates learn that monopoly makes people angry. What serious and fast language can i use right know in Linux? I prefer to pay for something and than have somebody to conplain when something goes wrong. When i first heard about Linux i thought it was going to be a free and open source OS,maintened by MicroSoft competitors and those users who were sick of being explored by Microsoft monopoly policy. But the OS being free does not mean that someone would not have to pay for a compiler a word processor and so on,and it does not means that someone should not been paid to develop the OS too. It only means that you don´t have to pay for The OS(the brain), so the producers and consumers of the arms,legs and so on would compete and consume in a more civilizated way. But at least in Brazil,It seems that the concept is nobody want to pay for the programs,only the service should be charged. It is a foolish thing to say. I´m not saying that this what´s happend to Kylix,For me Kylix was conceptually wrong and bad implemented. I would only consider about using Kylix if Borland had migrated VCL TO Linux,if it doesn´t had bugs,if i had good quality third part components,it´s better not to do something than do it for the half. Regards, Marcello Dias |
Kevin
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2003-12-29 11:43:13 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
Marco Caspers writes:
QuoteAlso from a managability standpoint, linux is a nightmare.. perspective. If you're skilled in maintaining Windows then Linux looks a bit challenging... I have seen quite a few issues that could only be resolved on Windows by a complete re-install as well! |
Kevin
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2003-12-29 11:49:15 PM
Re:The IT industry is shifting away from Microsoft
JQP writes:
QuoteThe best hope for Linux on the desktop is to replace the desktop with a thin you're only using MS Office then OpenOffice or StarOffice are fine substitutes. So, if users are not using anything other than Office, E-mail and Internet they are good candidates for a Linux solution. And that's where Linux is going to start sneaking in... It already has done for a lot of government installations. Cheers, Kevin. |