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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!


2005-01-24 01:53:41 AM
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Will DeWitt Jr. writes:
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Now, while ULONG_PTR (and hence, DWORD_PTR) are dependent on whether
or not you're targetting Win64, it seems from the #define that it
wouldn't alter the output of MakeLong or MakeWord.
Good.
Now identify al the code in the VCL which assumes the size of a pointer
is 32 bit (DWORD), etc.
<g>
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

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I may happen so what?
I would agree with this sentiment. However, some people here have taken
exception to it, for some reason. Whatever happens, it won't be an issue
for a while yet, as you correctly (IMO) point out.
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As far as I remember Borland did not release
win32 version of Delphi for quite a while
after win95 went into production.
I remember D2 coming out pretty soon after, but hell, it was a long time
ago :-)
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Jim Cooper
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

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I would agree with this sentiment. However, some people here have taken
exception to it, for some reason. Whatever happens, it won't be an issue
for a while yet, as you correctly (IMO) point out.
Some of them are early adopters I guess that might see ROI
coming from their investing in the technology at this stage.
Some are programmers that want to learn something new or
make their resume better. Many others I think act like a
lemmings following the flute whistles.
Kostya
 

Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

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Some of them are early adopters
I'm talking about the people who don't believe Joanna (or me either, I
suppose).
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Many others I think act like a
lemmings following the flute whistles.
First lemmings are great hunters (not you, that was some else), now they
follow flutes? Damn, I am learning things about lemmings I didn't know :-)
Possibly the lemmings don't know these things either though. If you are
referring to the Pied Piper story, that was rats (and then children) ;-)
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

"Jim Cooper" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>Some of them are early adopters

I'm talking about the people who don't believe Joanna (or me either, I
suppose).

>Many others I think act like a
>lemmings following the flute whistles.

First lemmings are great hunters (not you, that was some else), now they
follow flutes? Damn, I am learning things about lemmings I didn't know :-)

Possibly the lemmings don't know these things either though. If you are
referring to the Pied Piper story, that was rats (and then children) ;-)
www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s1081903.htm
(first one I founf in Google searching for lemmings myth)
 

Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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Now identify al the code in the VCL which assumes the size of a pointer
is 32 bit (DWORD), etc.
Do you have an example where the VCL makes an assumption about this and
explicitly depends on it? ie. is there an example that can be cited
that shows where the VCL will break because of DWORD now catering for
int64?
 

Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:

>Now identify al the code in the VCL which assumes the size of a
>pointer is 32 bit (DWORD), etc.

Do you have an example where the VCL makes an assumption about this
and explicitly depends on it?
If it were that easy, one would not have to check all the source. A
handle is actually a pointer, but in Delphi, it is declared as
LongWord. I have no idea if they could be a problem. I can als imagine
that code passing PChars in a DWORD parameter could be problematic.
I guess one would have to have Win64 installed, and do a lot of tests
to see if there are any problems. I don't have a 64 bit processor here.
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Will DeWitt Jr. writes:
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Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:

>You accuse here of "making it up"? Get off your high horse.

Neat, I take it the argument is won then.
Huh? You are accusing her of making up things, while you have no way to
prove she does.
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

Johnnie Norsworthy writes:
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>Why not use Delphi to write the web services?


Two reasons: 1-I don't have Delphi 8 or D2005. 2-It was so darn easy in C#.
It is "darn" easy in D6-D7 too ;-)
Actually, I prefer Delphi.
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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Will DeWitt Jr. writes:


>Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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>>You accuse here of "making it up"? Get off your high horse.
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>Neat, I take it the argument is won then.


Huh? You are accusing her of making up things, while you have no way to
prove she does.

Time to ignore this thread I see.. <g>
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Re: Why 64bit Delphi compiler from Borland may be meaningless!

Kostya writes:
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Many others I think act like a
lemmings following the flute whistles.
Hmmm... looks like you are confusing two stories. Rats followed the
pied piper.
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"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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And they did the same with support for .Net.
And Java.
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"Will DeWitt Jr." <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Neat, I take it the argument is won then. Thanks for playing guys.
Ah, you are gracious in defeat.
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Possibly the lemmings don't know these things either though. If you are
referring to the Pied Piper story, that was rats (and then children) ;-)
Yes I know they were rats, but lemmings also commit mass suicides
so I got two things mixed up in my poor brain.
Kostya
 

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Hmmm... looks like you are confusing two stories. Rats followed the
pied piper.
Correct, it was my mistake. it is funny how you people pick a little
things while avoiding the substance.
Kostya