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2005-03-17 01:57:53 AM
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John Jacobson writes:
was libelous. One can get into legal trouble, and rightly so, if one
simply says whatever one pleases, taking the attitude "anyone who takes
my stated suspicions as fact has their own problems".
aspersions of that general nature, characterizing them as "suspicions",
and now you are weaseling out of it by saying that you never said
things that you, well, never said, as if it were relevant. What you
/did/ say is under discussion here. ;-)
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John Jacobson writes:
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Bryce K. Nielsen writes:
add-on I have seen. CodeRush had some refactoring tools, but annoyed the
heck out of me, didn't understand C#, and destabilized the IDE in a way
which makes D2005 look like the Space Shuttle's computer systems. VSS
ConneXion was a fantastic source control extension but had nothing like
the history window and didn't know about change requests. The JCL debug
extensions didn't link to the code.
These features are possible *because* of the re-architecting of the
IDE. If you want the features, you want the IDE changes, because you
are not going to get them in D7, ever, from Borland or anyone else.
Yes, I want D2005 to be more stable. OTOH, I don't want to live
without D2005's features, and I am glad Borland is taking big steps.
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bloke :-)
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Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) writes:
-Brion
 

Jim Cooper writes:
to similes. Bob appears to be one of them.
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Kevin Berry writes:
not an opposition to it.
Sounds a lot like "The older I get, the better I was!" ;>
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Danny Thorpe writes:
Delphi 2005 being good value is not in opposition to Jake's earlier post
about bad quality.
I personally have seen how bad Borland's quality is getting with the
Delphi IDEs since Delphi 6. It just gets a bit worse each time. There
are quite a few weird behaviors that quite honestly cannot easily be
reproduced. So, because they cannot be reproduced they don't get fixed.
As a result you have a pretty unstable product with Delphi 2005. It
has lots of great features, but the quality really isn't that great.
I was just working with Delphi 2005 Update #2 with a C# project now for
about 1 hour and this is what happened (for example):
* StarTeam access violations when accessing recent project file (as
opposed to using "pull...".
* StarTeam access violations when accessing history dialog.
* Structure panel appearing in top left corner of screen (i.e. not
docked and with no caption bar so it can not be moved). Had to exit to
get it to go away.
* Errors that weren't errors in the code- complained about member vars
that did actually exist. The code compiles fine.
And a few minor issues that just bug me but I could live with:
* Spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes in StarTeam dialogs- "which"
used instead of "that" and some UK english spelling instead of american
spelling (behaviour instead of behavior). I am OK with the UK English
spelling as long as it is consistent throughout the app. ;-)
How's that for quality? Delphi 2005 is not what I would call a quality product.
And yet... I still find it useable and like the nice new features.
Danny... Please do something about quality in the next version of
Delphi. Personally, I think a public beta is in order. Or at least get
more beta testers who will push the IDE a bit more. It seems that the
guys that are doing your beta testing now aren't doing a good job of
ironing on the user-specific bugs.
Cheers,
Kevin.
 

product. They could make it a seperate product or an integrated product. By
making it a seperate product they would have to spread the resources more
thinly (sic) over both a Win32 and .NET product that had very similar
functionality. By making an integrated product they could combine the
resources. I guess that it would have been too difficult to retrofit .NET
into the 'old' IDE.
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Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote in <42384bdc$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>:
reproduce (but, that being said, it has happened more than once of
course or I wouldn't consider it a show-stopper).
Will
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Craig,
And of course, having Delphi for Win32, Delphi for .Net, and C# all in
one IDE is considered a feature by many.
In addition, as Danny deftly pointed out, Delphi 7 remains unchanged, and
functioning as it always has. If that is considered "perfect", then
one can use it.
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Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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On 15 Mar 2005 21:48:23 -0800, "Will DeWitt Jr."
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state of the release, if you were to prospone it again and again. If
you have to pull some feature out, perhaps documentation must be
rewritten etc. Makes the whole release process less smooth, and imho
more error prone.
As for the reliability of the product, I dont think there's much wrong
with Borlands processes directly, however it does seem to me that they
were a bit overly optimistic when they pinned certain dates.
If they find a bug, and it is too hard to fix before release, I think
I'd prefer if they included some text saying they know about this, and
a (temporary) workaround. I think they should at least be able to
provide this if they know about it. I think Borland knew of most of
the issues, I don't think they have that bad of a QA.
However, I'd urge you (all who are concerned about software
quality) to use your most powerfull tool: money. Their existance
revolves entirely around your money, so spend it wisely.
- Asbjørn