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Liz

Delphi Developer
 

Re: Update 2 available


2005-03-12 03:54:36 AM
delphi193
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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I don't use datasets, so I can probably live with 2. But I do hope
that those who need it will get an update 3.
Me either, but, the fact theres a known issue does lead hope for
another..
 
 
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:05:08 AM

Re: Update 2 available

J. Clarke writes:
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Argh #1 - How come that is not showing up in my D2K Headlines (Check
for Delphi Updates).
There now.
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Argh #2 - The release notes (on the web page) want you to go to
QualityCentral to see the list of changes. What should I be
searching on Recently Closed....Delphi?
Nothing, yet. The update appeared several days before it was expected.
The perpetual mad scramble continues ...
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John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:06:58 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Nathanial Woolls writes:
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Tried installing again, no luck. Still at 9.0.1.
I recommend asking in the install.delphi group.
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Rick Hollerich

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:08:44 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Don Strenczewilk writes:
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Just a guess, but,, if you did any of the optimizations that entailed
renaming files, that may be why it is {*word*89}, because it is a patch and
doesn't actually replace files.

"Colin Wilson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...

>"The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows"
 >"installer service because the program to be upgraded"
 >"may be missing, or the upgrade patch may upgrade a"
 >"different version of the program. Verify that the program"
 >"to be upgraded exists on your computer and that you"
 >"have the correct upgrade patch."
 >
 >[ OK ]
 Can somebody point me in the direction of the site that tells which files needed
to be renamed? I don't remember which ones they were and I am having the same
installation problem with the Pro.
Also can somebody verify that changing these back works or has other steps that
do work, to make the Pro version update?
Rick Hollerich
 
Liz

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:15:20 AM

Re: Update 2 available

John Kaster (Borland) writes:
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Nothing, yet. The update appeared several days before it was expected.

The perpetual mad scramble continues ...
Major hugs for all the fixes, and all the work gone in to get it out
early, even if we arent entirely sure what is fixed at this time, I
know some of the things that had bugged me are gone..
 
Liz

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:17:42 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Rick Hollerich writes:
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Can somebody point me in the direction of the site that tells which
files needed to be renamed? I don't remember which ones they were and
I am having the same installation problem with the Pro.
I believe it went
rename/delete tgide90.bpl and borland.studio.together.dll
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Also can somebody verify that changing these back works or has other
steps that do work, to make the Pro version update?
Cant vouche for pro, but I know my issues with the architect version
were because I tried to use a remote CD not a local one and so it
wouldnt prompt me for the other disk... and so I copied all files onto
my HD and tada it shut up.
 
Will DeWitt Jr.

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:19:18 AM

Re: Update 2 available

John Kaster (Borland) writes:
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Nothing, yet. The update appeared several days before it was expected.

The perpetual mad scramble continues ...
*cracks the whip*
<g>
Seriously, good work on keeping the updates coming, this is far and
away better than how Delphi 7 was handled. Hopefully if an update 3 is
necessary it'll follow this same quick schedule.
Will
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J. Clarke

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:37:34 AM

Re: Update 2 available

...I haven't renamed anything. I said in an earlier post that everything is
in it is default state (unless update1 did something fun...).
Jeff
"Don Strenczewilk" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Just a guess, but,, if you did any of the optimizations that entailed
renaming files, that may be why it is {*word*89}, because it is a patch and
doesn't actually replace files.

"Colin Wilson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
>
 >"The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows"
 >"installer service because the program to be upgraded"
 >"may be missing, or the upgrade patch may upgrade a"
 >"different version of the program. Verify that the program"
 >"to be upgraded exists on your computer and that you"
 >"have the correct upgrade patch."
  
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:44:43 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Liz writes:
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even if we arent entirely sure what is fixed at this time,
Search for "Resolved in Build" 9.0.1882.30496
There will be more showing up as we update reports in the internal
system w/ the resolved in build #, but right now there's 57. That's
only bugs linked b/n QC and RAID.
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Liz

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:51:06 AM

Re: Update 2 available

John Kaster (Borland) writes:
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Search for "Resolved in Build" 9.0.1882.30496
Cool. Thanks John.
 
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 04:54:22 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Liz writes:
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Cool. Thanks John.
I'd keep looking for the next week, since I am still asking QA to run
through the bugs and make sure resolutions are set.
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Satya

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 05:24:42 AM

Re: Update 2 available

I wish Borland use Inno Setup:
www.innosetup.com/
Regards,
Satya
Colin Wilson writes:
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Colin Wilson writes:


>I'm reinstalling upgrade #1 as we speak. Just to see whether that
 >would still install without this error (it does, BTW.)

It finally finished reinstalling update #1. Just running that is
enough to put me in a bad mood (*).

But even after reinstalling update 1 it still comes up with this smug,
irritating message:

"The upgrade patch cannot be installed by the Windows"
"installer service because the program to be upgraded"
"may be missing, or the upgrade patch may upgrade a"
"different version of the program. Verify that the program"
"to be upgraded exists on your computer and that you"
"have the correct upgrade patch."

[ OK ]

Well, no. it is not "OK". Why do people write messages like this?
Something went wrong. Blame Microsoft. Blame the customer. Blame
anyone you like. Just don't take any responsibility yourself. How
about putting up a message instead that says:

"Our upgrade patch cannot be installed because its
looking for version 1.0.3 of 'boride90.bpl', but
that file cannot be found. We are sorry that the
upgrade failed. Please contact your Borland
representative with these details and we will help
you get a resolution"

[ Cancel the Upgrade ]



(*) Oh yes. Installing upgrade 1. It drove me nuts when I first
installed it, and its no more palatable the second time around. the
whole thing is infused with that smug, faux-optimistic corporate
bullsh*t that I have grown to loathe. In particular.

* It starts off by blaming me. 'Some features are missing from your
installation. Insert the original installation CD 1'. Features? What
features?? I did a full install. If this is a security check - say
so! Luckily I know by now to keep my original D2005 CDs strapped to my
inner thigh just in case - so I can proceed.

* Well there's slow - and then there's slow. (And I have remembered to
temporarily turn off my Virus checker). For ages it gets stuck on
'Estimated time remaining 14 minutes'. Then it jumps to 18 minutes.
Nice. I stalk off to have a cigarette and do a SuDoku. When I get
back it is on '3 minutes left' and finally it ticks down to '0'!!!

* Hah. It may have reached zero. But it is grayed out all the buttons
and is sitting there fiddling with itself. The minutes tick by.

* 'Setup is removing backup files'. Please wait. We're finally
getting somewhere...

* ... "estimated time remaining - 5 minutes". 5 minutes? 5 minutes???
To delete a few files ??? Or even a whole directory containing
hundreds of megabytes of the things? What's it doing? Soaking them
away with warm soapy water or something.


Grrrrr!

 
Don Strenczewilk

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 07:00:49 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Well, kill that theory. I re-renamed the two files Liz mentioned and I get
the same error message that Colin showed.
"John Jacobson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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That's an interesting theory. It would be rather easy to test. Has anyone
who used DCM instead of manually renaming files run into the same problem?
 
dfagnan

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 07:29:50 AM

Re: Update 2 available

I try to install over version
version 9.0.176.24408 udate 1 I received a message I can not not install over
and verify your version or update
Someone I tried to install over version update 1
Daniel Fagnan
"Tom" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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I just downloaded and installed Delphi 2005 update 2.

So far it seems stable, but still has memory leaks when debugging.

Tom
 
Dan Thomas

Delphi Developer

2005-03-12 07:29:55 AM

Re: Update 2 available

Well, I was going to complain because I *just* installed Delphi 2005
yesterday along with Update 1, and now Update 2 comes out the next day.
But after reading about some of the problems people are having, I guess
I won't complain after all, since Update 2 installed without a hitch. <grin>
-Dan