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Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer
 

Re: Go, software activation, go!


2006-03-24 06:56:17 PM
delphi64
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
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>- whoever would think that
 >'cat' means list the contents of a file?
Easy, it comes from 'concatenate'
Doubtful, since the meaning of 'concatenate' has nothing to do with listing
contents. 'Cat' is a short for 'catalog'--ie, list or enumerate contents.
bobD
 
 
Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 07:16:01 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
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We are currently doing ruby on rails on postgresql.
How would you suggest that I use drag and drop for this ?
I don't know what drove you to those tools, so hard to comment.
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Fear of the commandline and "esoteric tools"
Neither I nor Larry mentioned fear or inability. We just both tend to feel
that programming is like cooking--the point it to put food on the table, not
to be playing with the kitchen utensils.
bobD
 
Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 08:58:55 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"Oliver Townshend" wrote
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cat is used to concatenate files and send the result to the standard
output.
Nothing to do with catalogue, sorry.
I've always thought of it as a cataloging function, but I will admit to never
having researched it.
bobD
 

rambam

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:03:32 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"David Clegg" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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Although they should probably give a medal to the one who came up with
fsck. ;-)
fsck is an excellent abbreviation for file system check.
And grep is a good abbreviation of global regular expression print.
:-)
 
Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:11:13 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
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fsck is an excellent abbreviation for file system check.
And grep is a good abbreviation of global regular expression print.
and wsihtmatnwttcj is a great abbreviation for why should I have to memorize
all this nonsense when that is the computer's job?
Incidentally--what proportion of the time to you actually print a grep
result? If I am grepping across source directories for a particular variable
or statement use, I am generally interested in opening it in my code editor.
Don't know that I have ever actually printed it.
bobD
 
Iman L Crawford

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:36:19 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

Larry Drews <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
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But we are talking about tar. Is this not the utility that unpacks a
distribution file? Isn't this something that a non-programmer would
have to use to install an application?
Not really, like Anders said, you would wrap it up in an install
utility.
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And I bet there are actual "programmers" out there that hardly ever
use a command line tool. I know that I use the command line maybe 2
times a year.
Understood, but complaining about tar being unfriendly is like
complaining about some function call you never use as unfriendly. You
RTFM and then use it.
--
Iman
 
Iman L Crawford

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:38:31 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"Oliver Townshend" <oliveratzipdotcomdotau>wrote in
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Still have to think about
cat, and I have using it for 22 years. Whereas type makes sense.
I find myself doing ls and cat when I use the command prompt in windows.
I've been doing dos a lot longer than unix.
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Iman
 
Iman L Crawford

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:42:45 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"Bob Dawson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in news:4423d4e9$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:
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I don't know what drove you to those tools, so hard to comment.
writing web apps quick, clean and cheap, and supported on just about any
web server.
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Iman
 
Iman L Crawford

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:51:44 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"Bob Dawson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
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Based on that logic, I guess code completion is a just fluff as well?
code completion is a godsend for huge class libraries. tar --help is
pretty simple too.
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Syntax checkers? Compiler hints?
I don't think I have ever used the check syntax of Delphi. A compile runs
just as fast. Compiler hints are nice for compiled languages, but
pretty useless for scripting language.
I would say you should learn the environment you're in. If you're using
windows, just get used to everything being a window program and hunt and
peck through the menu system to find what you're looking for. If you're
using unix, learn the command line and get used to command --help,
command -?, man command to find what you're looking for. IMO, as a
programmer you should easily adapt to whatever environment you're in.
--
Iman
 
Iman L Crawford

Delphi Developer

2006-03-24 10:59:50 PM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

"Bob Dawson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in news:44235b3f$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:
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reason to tolerate wasting it on obscure tools that value their own
sparseness more than their value to their users.
It's only obscure because you have not learned it. You want user-
unfriendly, try to explain to a neophyte what an extension is, why it's
important in windows, and why you can not just change .pdf, to .doc and
open it with Word. Or why that attachment from their mac loving friend,
without an extension can't be opened.
Don't mistake what you're used to, to userfriendlyness.
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Iman
 
Ben Hochstrasser

Delphi Developer

2006-03-25 12:21:14 AM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

Iman L Crawford writes:
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I find myself doing ls and cat when I use the command prompt in windows.
Do it: unxutils.sourceforge.net/
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Ben
 
Oliver Townshend

Delphi Developer

2006-03-25 07:31:28 AM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

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I find myself doing ls and cat when I use the command prompt in windows.
I've been doing dos a lot longer than unix.
Normally can make the switch except for type and cat. The worst I ever did
was copy, which I used without the second argument on a unix box. Consider
the difference between the following:
cd \data
copy \olddata\*
on Unix as opposed to Dos.
The command I miss most in Dos is the ability to do
vi `grep -ilw word *.4gl`
Oliver Townshend
 
Oliver Townshend

Delphi Developer

2006-03-25 07:33:09 AM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

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Incidentally--what proportion of the time to you actually print a grep
result? If I am grepping across source directories for a particular
variable
or statement use, I am generally interested in opening it in my code
editor.
Don't know that I have ever actually printed it.
vi `find . -name "*.pas" -exec grep variable {} \;`
Who needs to print it?
Oliver Townshend
 
Jon Springs

Delphi Developer

2006-03-25 09:49:43 AM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

Research done.
www.cs.bu.edu/help/unix/viewing_files_with_cat.html
-----Jon-----
"Bob Dawson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
>>- whoever would think that
 >>'cat' means list the contents of a file?
 >
 >Easy, it comes from 'concatenate'
Doubtful, since the meaning of 'concatenate' has nothing to do with
listing
contents. 'Cat' is a short for 'catalog'--ie, list or enumerate contents.

bobD


 
Jon Springs

Delphi Developer

2006-03-25 09:50:07 AM

Re: Go, software activation, go!

Oops, forgot ;-).
-----Jon-----
"Bob Dawson" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
>>- whoever would think that
 >>'cat' means list the contents of a file?
 >
 >Easy, it comes from 'concatenate'
Doubtful, since the meaning of 'concatenate' has nothing to do with
listing
contents. 'Cat' is a short for 'catalog'--ie, list or enumerate contents.

bobD