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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

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Re: .NET Blows


2007-10-08 10:36:30 PM
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John Jacobson writes:
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csc.exe is the C# compiler from Microsoft. Apparently, Delphi 2007 uses it.
D2007 uses MSBuild, which is indeed a .NET 2.0 app. There's a registry
setting to restore the old build system, but you lose the MSBuild
features, of course. I don't know why you're seeing such high CSC
activity, but I am gussing you'd see the same if you invoked MSBuild
from the command line. It might be a good way to narrow down the
problem.
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Peter Morris

Delphi Developer

2007-10-08 10:53:04 PM

Re: .NET Blows

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This morning I can not use D2007. Every time I try to do a build or compile
it hangs, while csc.exe gobbles up 50% of the CPU. This goes on for
several minutes, until I get tired of waiting and cancel it.

csc.exe is the C# compiler from Microsoft. Apparently, Delphi 2007 uses it.

This is ridiculous.
I very much doubt that your problem lies in CSC
 
Nick Hodges (CodeGear)

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 12:25:35 AM

Re: .NET Blows

John Jacobson writes:
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csc.exe is the C# compiler from Microsoft. Apparently, Delphi 2007 uses it.
Only if you have C# code in your app.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 12:50:02 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
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>csc.exe is the C# compiler from Microsoft. Apparently, Delphi 2007 uses
 >it.
Only if you have C# code in your app.
Are you sure?
groups.google.com/group/borland.public.delphi.non-technical/msg/1
5934c9f35a57fb6
(preview.tinyurl.com/2huyuh)
MSBuild does deserialize from XML when it runs, so it wouldn't
surprise me if that is what's going on here.
But I don't know why it is dying on John's machine. I wonder if his
config file is corrupt?
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Ingvar Anderberg

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 01:26:49 AM

Re: .NET Blows

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Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:

>>csc.exe is the C# compiler from Microsoft. Apparently, Delphi 2007 uses
 >>it.
 >
 >Only if you have C# code in your app.
Are you sure?

groups.google.com/group/borland.public.delphi.non-technical/msg/1
5934c9f35a57fb6

(preview.tinyurl.com/2huyuh)

the thread describe the startup process of BDS,
but Johns problem is when he do a build or compile...
 
Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 01:35:24 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Ingvar Anderberg writes:
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the thread describe the startup process of BDS,
but Johns problem is when he do a build or compile...
Both processes include deserializing objects from XML, which is what
invokes CSC.
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Andreas Hausladen

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2007-10-09 02:18:11 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Both processes include deserializing objects from XML, which is what
invokes CSC.
... and what is cached by DelphiSpeedUp.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 02:23:51 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Andreas Hausladen writes:
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... and what is cached by DelphiSpeedUp.
Are you only talking about the start page, or are you talking about
MSBuild as well? If it is the latter, then John, are you using
DelphiSpeedUp?
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Nick Hodges (CodeGear)

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 02:50:41 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Are you sure?
No, I guess I am not --
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Peter Morris

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 04:17:17 AM

Re: .NET Blows

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Perhaps, but it is not my job to debug CodeGear's code that uses it.
I didn't say it was on account that I have never heard of you :-) The fact
is though, you can not say ".NET blows" because an app that uses it is
misbehaving. It makes no sense.
 
Andreas Hausladen

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 06:09:55 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Are you only talking about the start page, or are you talking about
MSBuild as well? If it is the latter, then John, are you using
DelphiSpeedUp?
He wouldn't see a CSC.EXE process if he uses DSU ;-)
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Captain Jake

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 10:14:38 AM

Re: .NET Blows

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This morning I can not use D2007. Every time I try to do a build or compile it
hangs, while csc.exe gobbles up 50% of the CPU. This goes on for several
minutes, until I get tired of waiting and cancel it.
Reboot seemed to fix it.
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Bruce McGee

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 10:44:22 AM

Re: .NET Blows

Captain Jake writes:
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Reboot seemed to fix it.
You didn't try turning it off and back on again first? Haven't we
learned anything from the IT Crowd?
:)
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Robert Giesecke

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 04:16:34 PM

Re: .NET Blows

Andreas Hausladen writes:
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:

>Are you only talking about the start page, or are you talking about
 >MSBuild as well? If it is the latter, then John, are you using
 >DelphiSpeedUp?
He wouldn't see a CSC.EXE process if he uses DSU ;-)

Do you ship precompiled serialization assemblies? Good call!
(Not having sgen'd serializers can easily slow down startup time)
 
Eric Grange

Delphi Developer

2007-10-09 04:16:56 PM

Re: .NET Blows

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No, I guess I am not --
That's the interesting twist with MS's latest dev techs: it is such a
spaghetti plate that it can quickly end up with dependencies to anything
and everything...
Eric