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2005-01-12 07:39:11 AM
delphi189
the layoffs were obviously announced on the same day the date for the
conference call about the results of the 4th quarter were announced. I hope
this isn´t a bad indicator for 4th quarter results?
www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2005/January/11/biz/stories/02biz.htm
As sad as it is, I hope none of them was working for the RAD .NET group
(Delphi et al.)?
-Peter
 

"Peter Sleuth" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
 

After much cogitation, XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...
doesn't say much except doubletalk...of course he is involved with
CORPORATE communications. :)
 

Some quotes from Yahoo Message board:
<quote>They were many veterans of Borland. The severance pay was 1week/year
of service. They were laid off from the JBuilder tools group mostly and
across all areas - R&D, QA, and Publications. There were also a few laid off
in other tools groups, including a 10+ year veteran from the Delphi
group...</quote>
<quote>What's even worse is this layoff is coinciding with a time when a
large number of individuals that have jumped ship for greener patures. These
people include talented individuals like Corbin Dunn. </quote>
This is sad news...
In general, keeping in mind Delphi 2005 release success...
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"Peter Sleuth" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:02:16 -0800, "Serge Dosyukov \(Dragon Soft\)"
<serge[no_spam]ATdragonsoftru.com>writes:
I never realized Borland was such a stingy company..
If the severance packages are any reflection of employee salaries, it
certainly explains a lot about why D2005 is in the shape it is in.
 

"Maxwell Smart" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
<quote>
They were many veterans of Borland. The severance pay was 1week/year of
service.
</quote>
some may even cap that. Mind you there's no requirement at all.
 

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:58:45 -0700, "somebody"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
shameful.
I'd expect one week per year from a small, unknown company, but not a
worldwide enterprise like Borland.
The last company I worked for (before I ventured out on my own), was
giving one month of pay for every year of service. that is the proper
way to do things, especially when you're laying off a dedicated
employee who's been with the company for several years.
 

Maxwell Smart writes:
kind of severance pay. it is certainly not something you put in
your recruiting ad: come work here, and we'll pay your severance!
-Brion
 

On 14 Jan 2005 12:55:48 -0800, "Brion L. Webster"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
recruiting.
The point is that it is the RIGHT thing to do.
When you have an employee that is been loyal to your company for 17
years, and you make the decision to lay them off, do you honestly
believe it is somehow right or reasonable to let that person go with NO
severance pay whatsoever?
 

Maxwell Smart writes:
unfortunately, yes. Personally, I think being a publicly held
company, perhaps moreso in recent times, is just a bad thing in
general. The focus on quarterly or annual numbers, profits above
all else, it is just madness. I'd hate to have to run a company
in those conditions.
-Brion
 

"Maxwell Smart" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
company, they can do what they wish. However, I don't expect a company that
has obligation to its shareholders to pay a full year's salary to an
employee that they let go after 10-12 years. If I were working in such a
company after 10 years, I'd just slack off until I get fired. If I am no
longer being useful to a company, why would they have to pay me to get rid
of me? Setting a high barrier to get rid of deadwood is a sure way to screw
yourself, and is not fair to employees who carry their weight and more.
 

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:30:33 -0700, "somebody"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
one at that. One of the reasons it became such a successful company
is because they never screwed their customers, nor their employees.
It's amazing how those two things can make or break a company...and
it's a real shame that other companies don't understand such simple
principles.
There's a difference between being fired and being laid off.
People who slack off get fired.
People who get laid off get severance packages.
 

"Maxwell Smart" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
and unfortunate, and severance pay is intended to help with that. A lot of
times they will help get you training for finding another job as well.
Dan
 

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:04:31 -0600, "Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes:
What words (or combination of words) did you piece together in order
to come up with the idea that my company was laying people off?
 

"Gold parachute" is not common bellow high circles.
You would see it for CEO, CFO, etc, but not for middle management or bellow.
Usually "Gold parachute" is set in hire contract or might be provided from
big generosity but it is not a required thing, for such thing we have
social/job services...
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Best regards, Serge Dosyukov
Dragon Soft
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"Maxwell Smart" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes