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Re: Delphi history - see yourself


2005-06-09 09:57:50 PM
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On 2005-06-03, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
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Delphi history - see yourself

www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php
How is chrome a Borland product ?
 
 

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On 2005-06-04, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
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I am looking to add Free Pascal,
I am going over Pascal Language page (link included), look for "Publicly
available compilers" section to see what else will be interesting to
mention.
So, no offence
www.freepascal.org/faq.html
 

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On 2005-06-03, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
>Delphi history - see yourself
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>www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php

How is chrome a Borland product ?
I agree that it makes no sense to list Chrome in a list that is otherwise
Borland products. If you're going to mention Chrome, you should also
mention Free Pascal, Lazarus, etc. And it probably ought to be on a
separate page, or somehow indicated as a separate "fork" in development.
Rick Carter
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Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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added for 1.0 and 2.0
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"Marco van de Voort" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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On 2005-06-04, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
>I am looking to add Free Pascal,
>I am going over Pascal Language page (link included), look for "Publicly
>available compilers" section to see what else will be interesting to
>mention.
>So, no offence

www.freepascal.org/faq.html

 

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>On 2005-06-03, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
>>Delphi history - see yourself
>>
>>www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php
>
>How is chrome a Borland product ?

I agree that it makes no sense to list Chrome in a list that is otherwise
Borland products. If you're going to mention Chrome, you should also
mention Free Pascal, Lazarus, etc. And it probably ought to be on a
separate page, or somehow indicated as a separate "fork" in development.
Free Pascal is in a list as of today
It is not about Borland per se, it is about Borland in a history of
Pascal/OP/Delphi.
Chrome, Free Pascal, Lazarus (would be included if I have info on it) are
part of a history of Pascal in Intel-based world.
I feel some disappointment for them to be in a list? How about C++ family?
I am planning to throw C# there to...
All this has a point to be in a list:
* to show history milestones
* to show an evolution of Delphi (Pascal + OP + C++ + C# = Delphi tomorrow)
* competition? it was always here, I do not think it is a point
* someone is missing? mention it and it will be referenced
I am going modify a content when it will be somewhat finalized
I think a chart show for once that Delphi has very long history and Borland
is a BIGGEST player in this segment.
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On 2005-06-09, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
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added for 1.0 and 2.0
I'd add project start too.
 

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On 2005-06-09, Rick Carter <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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>On 2005-06-03, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
>>Delphi history - see yourself
>>
>>www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php
>
>How is chrome a Borland product ?

I agree that it makes no sense to list Chrome in a list that is otherwise
Borland products. If you're going to mention Chrome, you should also
mention Free Pascal, Lazarus, etc. And it probably ought to be on a
separate page, or somehow indicated as a separate "fork" in development.
Maybe colouring ? it is nice to have them on one page to see what is chrnologically earlier.
Luckily it isn't as hard as Unix:
www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
:-)
 

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At 18:33:30, 09.06.2005, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) writes:
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Free Pascal is in a list as of today

It is not about Borland per se, it is about Borland in a history of
Pascal/OP/Delphi.
Then how does Chrome fit in? How do Borland C++ 4.5, 4.0, 3.1 etc. fit in?
And I see you forgot Apple's Object Pascal, the original.
Somehow that list lacks consistency.
--
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"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research,
would it?" -- Albert Einstein
 

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Rick Carter writes:
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I agree that it makes no sense to list Chrome in a list that is
otherwise Borland products. If you're going to mention Chrome, you
should also mention Free Pascal, Lazarus, etc. And it probably ought
to be on a separate page, or somehow indicated as a separate "fork"
in development.
And MS Pascal and MS Quick Pascal and Apple Object Pascal and ...
Simple question that has to be ansered is whether the list is specific to
Borland or specific to Pascal and all its variants.
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www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php
Was TP3 released 17.09.1986?
I believe TP3 was the first version I used, but I thought it was earlier
than 1986.
--
Aage J.
 

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At 20:49:19, 09.06.2005, Aage Johansen writes:
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www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php


Was TP3 released 17.09.1986?
I believe TP3 was the first version I used, but I thought it was
earlier than 1986.
Indeed. I think I got mine end of 1985.
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"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying
to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
-- Rich Cook
 

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"Marco van de Voort" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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On 2005-06-09, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) <serge>writes:
>added for 1.0 and 2.0

I'd add project start too.
 

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why are you so offended by this list?
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>It is not about Borland per se, it is about Borland in a history of
>Pascal/OP/Delphi.

Then how does Chrome fit in?
It is OP based, is it not? Having Free Pascal, Modula, Apple OP (as soon as
you help me with it), then nothing is wrong with Chrome.
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How do Borland C++ 4.5, 4.0, 3.1 etc. fit in?
C++ now will be part of Delphi (BDS) - this is a reason for C++ being here.
I still working on a name for the chart
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And I see you forgot Apple's Object Pascal, the original.
Any info?
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Somehow that list lacks consistency.
Your PoV ;o) It is still in beta...
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Best regards, Serge Dosyukov, MCPx2
Dragon Soft
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BorCon 2005 blog - borcon2005.blogspot.com/
Check Delphi 7 ->Delphi 2005 chart www.dragonsoftru.com
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Check here bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,20792,00.html
In the Museum: Turbo Pascal version 3.02
Ship date: 17-September-1986
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Best regards, Serge Dosyukov, MCPx2
Dragon Soft
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"Aage Johansen" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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www.dragonsoftru.com/index.php


Was TP3 released 17.09.1986?
I believe TP3 was the first version I used, but I thought it was earlier
than 1986.

--
Aage J.
 

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At 23:32:05, 09.06.2005, Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) writes:
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why are you so offended by this list?
I'm not. I just think it is a bit inconsistent.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] velthuis.homepage.t-online.de
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is inexpressibly trivial in relation to that which is unknown."
-- Albert Einstein