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2006-06-20 04:39:43 PM
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"Lauchlan M" <LMackinnonAT_NoSpam_ozemailDOTcomDOTau>writes
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position that I get constantly asked suggestion what
learning/teaching/prgramming tools to get. Years I had been recommending
Borland Delphi (and C++ Builder) but couple years back it changed when they
decided to change standard (to personal version) and pretty much castrated
use of it on anything useful by license. Since that I stopped recommending
Borland tools (and I know I am not only one that did so), and I am very sure
it has caused plenty of less sales and also less users of Borland products.
So it is not only directly it will show up, but indrectly too.
 

Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
and they are *also* damaging sales of expensive Delphi SKU's.
For an IT student or a beginning programming enthusiast, there's nothing as
tempting as a free IDE. And once you're hooked, you don't switch
platform so
quickly. Once these people get employed, they'll acquire the full product.
IMHO Borland should more aggressively target young developers, because
these are the ones that are flooded with the freebie Visual Studio Express
now. Target the people who will be employers in a few years, not those that
are going to retire in a few years.
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Ingvar Anderberg writes:
- Release a cheap or free "basic" version of Delphi, plus a dozen
extensions that
can be bought for $100 each.
That way students / hobbyists /beginners can upgrade step by step as they
need more features.
If this "basic" version doesn't allow the installation of third-party
components,
it probably won't {*word*16}ize from the higher SKU's.
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
this
low-end SKU. And make plenty of Borland-written VCL packages available
for $100 each.
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
Visual Studio Express will *ever* start using Delphi? They are probably
lost forever to Borland.
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Arthur Hoornweg writes:
probably is impossible for a product to be more "free" than another.
It is rather challenging to outmaneuver MS here, I assume..
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Ingvar Nilsen
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cheaply. No need to wait till their earning professional $$.
Lauchlan M
 

company for the developer tools. Give them a chance; they just might
turn things around.
Rick Carter
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Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Rick Carter writes:
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] ?Vertex Systems Corp. ?Columbus, OH
Delphi/InterBase Weblog : blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz
IB 6 versions prior to 6.0.1.6 are pre-release and may corrupt
your DBs! Open Edition users, get 6.0.1.6 from mers.com
 

Arthur Hoornweg writes:
version of Delphi should still allow the creation of components, and the
installation of freeware or shareware components. I suppose that means
it would allow the installation of commercial components as well -- I
don't know how you would separate them out.
Rick Carter
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Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:36:37 +1000, "Lauchlan M"
<LMackinnonAT_NoSpam_ozemailDOTcomDOTau>writes:
download the cd image myself, and apply for a key from the dep that
handles it at univ.
- Asbjørn