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Captain Jake
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Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++2003-12-16 02:39:26 AM delphi66 "Nick Hodges (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteKevin -- |
dontusethis
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 02:42:03 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++QuoteI don't think it is dying, but I do think that the days of using it to |
dontusethis
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 02:43:55 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++QuoteYes, it is going to take a while to die. But it sure is dying in the PDA's? |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 02:47:35 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Michael Caracena" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteAs Kevin stated before: is claimed by some (confused) individuals, then doesn't this imply that they DO NOT WANT TO CONVEY THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY ARE DROPPING WIN32 SUPPORT IN DELPHI? Then what basis is there for the crackpot argument that Borland is dropping Win32 support? It looks to me like deliberate FUD. It definitely is not a logical argument. |
dontusethis
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 02:48:56 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++QuotePlease get your facts straight. DfDN can be ordered with Delphi 7 included. again aren't spending a lot of resources on their win32 efforts. I find it completely acceptable that their solution is to bundle Delphi 7 instead. QuoteMakes sense to me. Why would you *not* continue using Delphi 7 for now anyway? |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 02:53:09 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Michael Caracena" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteThis indicates that they retracted ( they no longer acknowledge the under its own weight. |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 03:02:52 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Kevin Collins" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteSo only if .NET is not successful will we continue to be supported? system. That isn't much worsr than using new tools on a legacy operating system. Win32 is going away in a few years, just like 16-bit did. This is the way the future of Windows has been decided by Bill Gates. And no matter what happens, current copies of Delphi will continue to work on Win32 anyway. So I don't see the whole point of your argument. Even if Borland did decide to drop Win32 support, so what? Their current tools won't cease to work simply because they decide that all new releases will target .NET (a decision that thy have not yet made apparently). |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 03:06:50 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Kevin Collins" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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know all the facts. LOL. I love this argument. It is so whimsical. Look at the hilarious assumptions built into it: 1) Impressions are correct if more than one person shares those impressions. 2) A person can't state something that isn't true, if he is ignorant of the truth. This is easily one of the most entertaining threads in a long time! Bring the popcorn! |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 03:08:48 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Mike Margerum" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteKevin, your posts dont wrap properly in Agent. |
Captain Jake
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 03:12:37 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com>writes
QuoteCaptain Jake, ease up on the heckling. |
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 03:20:49 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:48:51 +0100, Eric Grange <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes: Quote"Okay, you can smell smoke, but how that can lead where around here." Nick Hodges - TeamB Lemanix Corporation Please always follow the newsgroup guidelines -- www.borland.com/newsgroups |
Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 07:20:06 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
Mike Margerum writes:
Quote>Please get your facts straight. DfDN can be ordered with Delphi 7 included. -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html "It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." - Thomas Jefferson |
Michael Caracena
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 11:04:41 AM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
Captain Jake writes:
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So I argued to have it disclosed in this public forum. ( I read this mainly from Google. ) Jeff Overcash published the Open Letter so we all could read it. I was very successful in my arguments. Sincerely, Michael Caracena |
Eric Grange
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 04:29:50 PM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
Okay, okay, here are two small exercices for you:
A) Having only double precision floating-point at your disposal, and no knowledge if this precision is achieved via FPU or SSE2, code a mathematical function returning results with double precision accuracy (i.e. no garbage bits in the return value). You are supposed to use hardware-accelerated floating point math, not write an FPU emulator. As for the function to code, well, a "weighted average" should keep you busy for some time. I will leave more "interesting" maths functions as an optionnal exercice. B) Write a Delphi 8 example of usage of OpenGL VBO extension (or the equivalent DirectX caps) in the streaming situations on a modern graphics board (GFFX 5900, Radeon 9800, etc.), suitable for use in skinning or animation situations. Your executable should not be 10 times slower than the Delphi 7 equivalent. C) Write a parser for an OpenOffice spreadsheet of medium size (say 300 kB on disk, I am sure you've seen bigger spreadsheets) that is able to open the file interactively on a standard office machine, say 1 GHz, 128 MB of RAM, with the purpose of extracting or adding data. D7 application does it in under a second. No ASM involved, only uses the VCL and RTL. (OpenOffice internal format is XML, those 300 kB being a ZIP, you can expect the raw, unzipped XML file to about 10-20 MB, feel free to use whatever DOM/SAX you wish, though I may hint you should use neither MS XML nor WideStrings if you wish to achieve interactive times on the target machine). Eric |
John Pressman
Delphi Developer |
2003-12-16 05:11:14 PM
Re: Moving from Delphi to C++
Captain Jake writes: new-fangled quoting
Your quoting style (>at the beginning of each paragraph, rather than the beginning of each line) is confusing OE-quotefix. |