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Your opinions needed2004-05-17 01:42:27 PM delphi181 Hi all. Ive just uploaded the beta version of Pixellab .. I'd appreciate all of you to have a go at it and send in your feedback regarding the usage, bug reports etc. You can post them in the forum if you like. Its available at pixellab.soumitrab.com Thanks and Regards |
Jon Lennart Aasenden
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2004-05-17 02:33:50 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
Looks good! Not sure about the skin stuff on the toolwindows, but excellent
work :) Jon Lennart Aasenden, Norway "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteHi all. |
Michael Hansen
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2004-05-17 03:43:32 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
Opened a jpg and typed 50 in the zoom/navigation palette..and it crashed..
There´s alot of nice features, but there´s alot of strange behaviours in the program that makes it very hard to work with (e.g. I tried to delete a value in an edit field by hitting "del" and then the layer was deleted??). It seems to me that the parts you should concentrate on is stability coherent response to keystrokes - you already have alot of nice features (I like your noise removal .. I thrashed the image with the old film filter, and the noise removal did a good job afterwards). Regards, Michael. "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteHi all. |
Francesco Savastano
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2004-05-17 05:03:50 PM
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I agree with Jon, Soumitra:
you should try to make it more stable: the features it has are already many and interesting, but the program cannot be used if it is not stable. Dont be tempted to have all features in photoshop, you will not be able to do that (at least alone and in a hobby project): the most important things are easy of use, stability and nice useful features.. Hope these comments help you in future. -- New World Software Creative Tools for Creative People new-world-software.com "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>ha scritto nel messaggio QuoteHi all. |
mrjumbles
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2004-05-17 05:22:41 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
Lots of features but interface is all over the place..that brushed look is
soooooooo 20th century "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteHi all. |
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2004-05-18 02:41:21 AM
Re:Your opinions needed
yes, pressing 'del' actually clears the image and fills it with the
background color .. the keyboard response hasnt been fully worked on .. i think till then avoiding using the 'del' for typed values is one way out ..:) Regards "Michael Hansen" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteOpened a jpg and typed 50 in the zoom/navigation palette..and it crashed.. |
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2004-05-18 02:43:02 AM
Re:Your opinions needed
dont worry, im not trying to be in Photoshop's league either :)
but it would be nice to know what on the issues of stability & ease of use i missed, not addressed. Regards "Francesco Savastano" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteI agree with Jon, Soumitra: |
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2004-05-18 02:43:29 AM
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brushed look eh? old is gold eh? ;
Regards "mrjumbles" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteLots of features but interface is all over the place..that brushed look is |
Francesco Savastano
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2004-05-18 05:34:28 AM
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Soumi,
to be honest i dont think the program is mature for selling yet, for being a beta imho there are still quite a lot of things to fix. I can tell some of them here but the list is quite long: * for example the airbrush seems not to work at all. Also the user shouldnt be able to input any value for the amount into the editbox (i put a value of 500 and of course the results of the painting was very weird) as well as the other edit boxes. * Many features are interesting and promising (if they could work as expected) but quite difficult to use (maybe for you not because you made the program;) and i always end finding some unexpected behaviour (for example my computer froze while i was using the select by color dialog 99% my cpu taken and beside this i wasnt able to see any selection happen when i chose a color) * I dont like much how you represent selections (why not just using a marching ants algorithm? no need to reinvent the wheel) * sometimes after i make a selection i loose it (this seems to happen when i do it too fast..) * in the new layer dialog it is not a good idea to have by default values of 0 for both width and height, infact i immediatly got a cannot allocate dib error trying to create a layer with such sizes. I also suggest to have by default the width and height of the background layer set in the edit boxes (also they look like they are disabled) * Some features still seem not be implemented or do not work, for example the "actions palette": does it work or i am so dumb i cannot use it.. * I looked for a brush- shape selector but i couldnt find it (but i have seen it in your screenshoots) * Does the gradient tool provide any functionality at all? * Some elements of the interface are completely misterious for me: how does the paths window and tool work? I tried to use them but without success, i made a path with the pen and pressed whatever was possible in the paths window to render the path and it didnt work. * Why in color dialog there are 2 labels named "alpha" under two different items. * After i create a path i wasnt able to do anything else until i dont get rid of it but no message tells me what i have to do and if i go to the paths window and press delete path it doesnt go away. * Resizing a layer from one of its corners doesnt keep proportions (this is not standard behaviour) *Trying to type a text using the text tool just caused the program to shutdown immediately. I could go on for a while... I dont want to seem too critique but you should really work and concentrate on the stability of the features. Kind Regards, Francesco P.S. in future i will always be available for testing the program and i expect a really big improvement from you:) "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>ha scritto nel messaggio Quotedont worry, im not trying to be in Photoshop's league either :) |
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2004-05-18 01:42:37 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
Hi Francesco,
Well yes there were so many things to do being single handed was a git difficult to keep track of things. Quote* for example the airbrush seems not to work at all. Also the user Quote* Many features are interesting and promising (if they could work as Quote* I dont like much how you represent selections (why not just using a Quote* sometimes after i make a selection i loose it (this seems to happen when Quote* in the new layer dialog it is not a good idea to have by default values Quote* Some features still seem not be implemented or do not work, for example Quote* I looked for a brush- shape selector but i couldnt find it (but i have Quote* Does the gradient tool provide any functionality at all? Quote* Some elements of the interface are completely misterious for me: how Quote* Why in color dialog there are 2 labels named "alpha" under two different Quote* After i create a path i wasnt able to do anything else until i dont get Quote* Resizing a layer from one of its corners doesnt keep proportions (this Quote*Trying to type a text using the text tool just caused the program to QuoteI could go on for a while... Thanks a ton and best regards Soumi |
Francesco Savastano
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2004-05-18 03:50:34 PM
Re:Your opinions neededQuoteYes i will be working to styabilize the application, good to know of all |
Michael Hansen
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2004-05-18 06:41:23 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
As Francesco pointed out, you may find the use and stability of the program
ok, but you coded it ;) If you can get someone (preferable someone who use DTP programs often) to use the program while you observe and notate, you may be able to better understand what we mean. About the keystroke issue - you need to keep track of which kinds of components/features is in focus - universal keystroke response is a very bad idea - specially for a common key like "del" (and basically you can´t do assumptions on how people use their keyboards ..). There was two issues that specially irritated me: the default layout when the program opens.. the palettes are placed chaotic, and the layout when you open a file..you should fit image zoom so no scrollbars appears. And then there´s one filter that really sucks (maybe just the name) - AntiAlias... this is probably the most inappropiate name for a blur filter! To the positive side of things: As said there´s alot of features, thats nice! Your icon work is nice and in most cases meaningful, which many programs lacks. The layout is in most cases good and easy to navigate through (if we look away from the functional bugs). One feature request though, statistics and analysis of the image... Regards, Michael. "None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes Quoteyes, pressing 'del' actually clears the image and fills it with the |
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2004-05-18 10:08:21 PM
Re:Your opinions needed
Thanks again, ive had that keyboard prob chronic .. any ideas how to go
about it ? To check whther any control has focus and then dispatching the appropriiate keydown msg is a bit tedious and i think impractical ,, maybe there has to be another way out ... As is Photoshop, how is it that the activeMDI form is always in focus relentless of which other alwaysOnTop dialog is clicked ? Thanks and best regards "Michael Hansen" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteAs Francesco pointed out, you may find the use and stability of the |
Yannis
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2004-05-19 08:52:31 PM
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"None" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM:
QuoteThanks again, ive had that keyboard prob chronic .. any ideas how to regards Yannis. |