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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?


2003-12-19 04:19:55 PM
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LOL -- that is pure FUD. Well done.
So, you officially announce the patch will be in Q1 or Q2 2004?
Will it be Q1 or Q2? Any hints on what is already sure to go in?
Eric
 
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

Brion L. Webster writes:
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Mike Swaim writes:

>German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone) writes:
>>1) Can please tell us where you get that info?
>He probably saw a demo.
>
>>2) Are you saying the Delphi 8 IDE and Debbuger was delivered with big
>>severity bugs?
>Given that it is not shipping, I would say that "was delivered" is
>premature.

There was a demo that went horribly awry in the Netherlands, I
believe, and the blog that described it was "not charitable", to
put it mildly.
That's indeed putting it mildly.
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OTOH, I heard the Twin Cities user group had a demo last night that
was stunning, including a live install in front of the audience.
I wasn't there, so i can not comment on that..
One can only quote from ones own experience..
Regards,
Marco..
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

Nick Hodges (TeamB) writes:
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On 18 Dec 2003 01:45:34 -0700, "Marco Caspers"
<*nospam*@haxor.vaxor.com>writes:

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>I'm not expecting anything before Q3, Q4 2004..

LOL -- that is pure FUD. Well done.
This, yes.
The crashing bit, no, i was there, and it really crashed big time, not
once, but repeatedly..
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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

David Smith writes:
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Marco Caspers writes:
[snip]
Can you show any specific way to make it crash ?
No i can't as i do not have it.
I can only tell you the impression of what i saw at the demo by Borland
representatives in a show hosted by David I..
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone) writes:
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1) Can please tell us where you get that info?
BorCon EU Demo.
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2) Are you saying the Delphi 8 IDE and Debbuger was delivered with big
severity bugs?
It's not delivered, Delphi 8 for .NET was still defenitly not ready then.
But i have to be honest, it looked great, and the things that worked,
worked as i like it. Nice simple and easy..
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

"GhostMethod_0000" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>escribi?en el mensaje
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"German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote

>2) Are you saying the Delphi 8 IDE and Debbuger
>was delivered with big severity bugs?


Why should it be any different than Delphi 6 and D7?

Are you suggesting that Borland doesn't ship a
product without full knowledge of significant
defects? Your're kidding right?
Er...Can you read? All the software HAVE bugs.I talk about crashing ide and
de{*word*81} bugs. That kind of bugs.
I use Delphi 7 and sometimes at exit of ide i get AV, but never crash. If somebody
else crash the IDE, im sorry! <G>
And i build so many real worlds 24/7 app without bugs, so stop complaining
about Borland. Better see the way you write your code.
German.
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On 19-Dec-03, German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone) said:
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Er...Can you read? All the software HAVE bugs.
Oh, say it ain't so! You mean, even... even... Open Source? <gasp>
It is truly difficult to imagine that after all these years of wide
discussion of the practical impossibility of eliminating ALL bugs,
there should still be those who speak of software shipped with bugs as
though it were a scandal.
--
Bill
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"You can not keep on doing things the old way and still get the benefits
of the new way." -- Thomas Sowell
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:19:55 +0100, Eric Grange <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes:
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So, you officially announce the patch will be in Q1 or Q2 2004?
Will it be Q1 or Q2? Any hints on what is already sure to go in?
I am afraid I don't have any idea what you are talking about here....
Nick Hodges - TeamB
Lemanix Corporation
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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On 19 Dec 2003 07:07:26 -0700, "Marco Caspers"
<*nospam*@haxor.vaxor.com>writes:
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>>I'm not expecting anything before Q3, Q4 2004..
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>LOL -- that is pure FUD. Well done.


This, yes.
I have to give you credit. You are, without question, the first
person to actually admit to putting out FUD that I have seen. <g>
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The crashing bit, no, i was there, and it really crashed big time, not
once, but repeatedly..
I'm sure that is true.
I gave a long, thorough demo of the product Wednesday night at our
user group and it didn't crash once.
Nick Hodges - TeamB
Lemanix Corporation
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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

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I am afraid I don't have any idea what you are talking about here....
If you label an info has FUD without doubt, it must be
because you know it is not true, otherwise, you're just
answering FUD with FUD.
So, since it ain't Q3 or Q4, it must be Q1 or Q2.
Eric
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:52:34 +0100, Eric Grange <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
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If you label an info has FUD without doubt,
Yes, it is FUD to say that Delphi 8 for .Net won't be delivered for
eight months. I have made no comments on service packs at all.
After that, I am afraid you've lost me.
Nick Hodges - TeamB
Lemanix Corporation
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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:21:35 -0600, "Brad White" <bwhite at
inebraska.com>writes:
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In my experience, the best way to get any software
to crash is to give it to your salesmen to give demos.
The profound truth of this leaves me awestruck and dumbfounded.
Nick Hodges - TeamB
Lemanix Corporation
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Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

"David Smith" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Marco Caspers writes:
>Nick Hodges (TeamB) writes:
>Given the state the latest Delphi 8 build was in just a mere 3 weeks ago,
>(IDE Crashing, De{*word*81} Crashing) I'd definitly advice you not to
>hold your breath.

Can you show any specific way to make it crash ?

In my experience, the best way to get any software
to crash is to give it to your salesmen to give demos.
--
HTH,
Brad White
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

On 19-Dec-03, German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone) said:
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Maybe it was not clear. I talk about sogtware in general terms, not
refer to Delphi 8 specially.
English is not my first language, so maybe i4m not being so clear.
You were very clear, but my humor may not have been. My comment was
based on the reality that as even such people as Don Knuth have
concluded that error-free software (in any non-trivial app) is very
likely impossible, the attitude of some posters here is quite silly.
--
Bill
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"You can not keep on doing things the old way and still get the benefits
of the new way." -- Thomas Sowell
 

Re: Any news on SP for Delphi7?

"William Meyer" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>escribi?en el mensaje
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On 19-Dec-03, German Pablo Gentile (MaxKalZone) said:

>Er...Can you read? All the software HAVE bugs.

Oh, say it ain't so! You mean, even... even... Open Source? <gasp>

It is truly difficult to imagine that after all these years of wide
discussion of the practical impossibility of eliminating ALL bugs,
there should still be those who speak of software shipped with bugs as
though it were a scandal.

Maybe it was not clear. I talk about sogtware in general terms, not refer to
D8 specially.
English is not my first language, so maybe im not being so clear.
German.