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2005-05-19 11:35:40 PM
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
However, we've also established that Kylix uses Winelib. Now, in all
likelihood, if I owned certain patents, I'd enforce them quite
literally. However, *this* particular case requires a measure of
goodwill - an act that symbolises gratitude *both* ways - because
Borland seems to be "profiting" from Winelib. Is there no room for
sensible acknowledgement?
(Remember Wayne, your points are diametrically opposite to Danny
Thorpe's - who reiterates his and Borland's commitment to Open Source
software. In other words, you are disagreeing with him.)
 

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
unprofessional journalism *should* be debated. Or at least discussed.
that has some worth. The benefit to Wine is more substantive.
to use Wine and Winelib for nearly any purpose with no expectaion of
compensation. Donations are always nice, but not required in any way.
For example, I donated money to Colin Wilson for making such a nice
newsreader available, but it wouldn't be illegal for me to use XanaNews
without doing so.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
 

At 17:36:26, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
How should Borland know who will try to contact them?
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Abdullah Kauchali writes:
the idea itself. If I were to copyright my implementation of a bubble
sort (which I can do in most countries simply by writing it), then it's
against the law for you to cut and paste (or otherwise transcribe) my
code, but you can still write your own implementation of the bubble
sort. If I patent a bubble sort (hmmm... I wonder if someone has done
this already...) then you can not write your own bubble sort, but you can
write a different kind of sort implementation.
...and probably should! :)
-Craig
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At 17:29:12, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
to do it differently. That is what the fuss is all about.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
But, IMVHO, Borland can shut these irresponsible people *once* and
*for all* by negotiating a lasting agreement with the Winelib folks.
That will be a kick in the balls to the sensationalist journalists,
and they will feel it.
*this* case not throw a dark shadow ito Borland's official policy
towards open source software? Are you not trivialising the matter a tad
bit here?
 

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
Ok, wait a moment. I will get the official fellow from the Winelib
team to contact you. Is that alright?
 

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
"cut-&-paste" - not the concept.
But if you guys are equating the currect Winelib issue to this, then
how does the patenting issue feature?
I am really stupid, please help me understand.
 

At 17:45:17, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Abdullah Kauchali writes:
I mean, I don't know that he or Borland *isn't* committed to OS, but I
don't see it in the blog entry we're discussing.
This isn't totally relevant to the discussion, as what someone
*doesn't* say usually can not be presumed to imply what they *do*
believe, but I want to make sure words aren't being put in Danny's
mouth.
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Abdullah Kauchali writes:
statements from execs from time to time on the subject, but never
anything quite as coherent as a policy.
Nor do I believe that saying that Borland could benefit from PR is
trivializing it. PR is often very valuable. I am mostly saying that the
benefit to Wine is probably higher than to Borland.
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Abdullah Kauchali writes:
rephrase?
Borland patented a technique for SEH, not SEH itself. This is, to me,
like patenting a technique for sorting, but not sorts in general. And
it's certainly different from copyright.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
Next question: What is Borland's official policy vis-a-vis OSS?
 

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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