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Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista


2006-03-23 09:35:59 AM
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Jim Cooper writes:
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I don't know that there are many farmers who do :-)
Perhaps not... that is certainly not my area of expertise!
Cheers,
Kevin.
 
 

Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista

Jim Cooper <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but therein lies the basis of all wit"
Oscar Wilde
Yes indeed. What kind of moron would use sarcasm as his main rhetorical weapon?
<g>
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Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista

On 2006-03-22, David Dean <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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In article <4421af5d$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Tom" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

>Without Windows, there is no office.

Office sells very well for Macintosh. I wouldn't be surprised if
Office revenues were much higher than Windows since Office is so much
more expensive than Windows.
Afaik "Client Windows" : "Office" : "Server Windows" : MSN is about
10:10:1:2 relatively in Microsofts profit lineup (that figure is a few years
old tho, XBox/Games division a negative number, VS doesn't register)
 

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"Tom" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>There is a big difference between taking care of your cash cow and
>milking it dry. Also, I don't agree with that statement. The cash
>cow in MS is Office.

Without Windows, there is no office.

>Office 12 is the first release in years to get
>any major updates to is, and that is all because of Open Office.

And this makes office a cash cow?
The idea of a cash cow in business was driven by the Boston Consulting Group
(Bruce Henderson and the marketshare/growth matrix, e.g.
www.valuebasedmanagement.net/methods_bcgmatrix.html). In that
context, a cash cow was a product that had a high market share and low
growth rate that did not require or need further investment, and essentially
just delivered ongoing revenue.
I think MS Office was being characterised in this thread as such a product -
high market share, little growth potential, not needing much investment,
delivering revenue. Until Open Office started making inroads . . .
Lauchlan M
 

Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista

Om 21:07:02 uur, 22.03.2006, schreef Leonel:
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Kevin B writes:

>Really? The only thing that I recognize in it is that the X
>represents the version 10.

Dex means ten in latin as well, IIRC.
Decem means 10. Dex doesn't mean anything, in Latin.
--
Ramona
 

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"Lauchlan M" writes:
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The idea of a cash cow in business was driven by the Boston Consulting
Group
(Bruce Henderson and the marketshare/growth matrix, e.g.
www.valuebasedmanagement.net/methods_bcgmatrix.html). In that
context, a cash cow was a product that had a high market share and low
growth rate that did not require or need further investment, and
essentially
just delivered ongoing revenue.
Regardless of what Wikipedia has to say on the subject, take it from someone
who's entry into business possibly predates your birth, the term "cash cow"
has been a "common sense" business term used in that same context long
before BCG was founded.
The origin of the term comes from the cow a family keep to produce "milk &
butter" money. My grannies cash cow was named Bossy. Anyone who grew up poor
in rural USA in the 1930's knew the term as did business people of that era.
Only in today's dumbed down world could BCG getaway with charging to
"explain" a term like cash cow.
 

Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista

In article <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...
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Om 21:07:02 uur, 22.03.2006, schreef Leonel:

>Kevin B writes:
>
>>Really? The only thing that I recognize in it is that the X
>>represents the version 10.
>
>Dex means ten in latin as well, IIRC.

Decem means 10. Dex doesn't mean anything, in Latin.

just the root of the word for right-handedness
<Cohort of Roman Legionaires marching off stage>
Sinister, Dexter, Sinister, Dexter
(from a Wayne and Shuster skit from waaaaay back)
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts
 

Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista

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"Larry Maturo" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes news:4421bec6$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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It appears some of the Microsoftties are not to happy about the delay, either. Check
out this blog: minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/03/vista-2007-fire-leadership-now.html

Vista release delay could be good for New Zealand
www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp
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In the US and European markets, Mr Colbert said, it is true that the weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas are critical for PC
sales -- and the OEM software that goes through the cash register with them -- but in New Zealand, that is not the case at all.
Mr Colbert says that here, first quarter sales are critical -- and they begin to take flight six to eight weeks after the new year.
[/quote]
[quote]
Importantly, though, he pointed out, the Vista OS is not just an "upgrade" but an entirely new product in many ways. "Vista is
completely different," he said, "more like a home server than just an operating system."
[/quote]
Regards, Roman
 

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Sarah writes:
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Got milk!?
:-)
 

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Mike B writes:
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Why? At least Microsoft uses a lot of the "cash cow" cash to make
major improvments to each generational release of Windows.

The same cannot be said of Borland.
My comment was directed to those who seemed to think the term "cash
cow" implied something other then good. If that was not you, then no
need to reply.
 

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Thomas Miller writes:
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There is a big difference between taking care of your cash cow and
milking it dry.
of course there is but that was not my point. I was only asking for
comments from those who stated in an earlier thread that the term "cash
cow" indicated something bad. I was simply demonstrating that it is
most often used to indicate a profitiable piece of a business.
 

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Sarah writes:
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No. it is never a bad thing if spoken by an outsider.
But, it becomes a bad or negative thing when spoken by an insider or
the CEO himself.
Taken in context with some other statement, perhaps, but in almost all
cases it would be a good thinng. I cannot think of any company who
would not like to have a cash cow.
 

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Mike B writes:
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Sarcasm.... the lowest form of wit, so I am told!

Get real!
Maybe so, but gross exaggeration, such as your statement is close to or
at the lowest level of communication, period. And worse yet, it isn't
even funny!
 

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John Jacobson writes:
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Yes indeed. What kind of moron would use sarcasm as his main
rhetorical weapon? <g>
The "kind" we remember <g>
 

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Lauchlan M writes:
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I think MS Office was being characterised in this thread as such a
product - high market share, little growth potential, not needing
much investment, delivering revenue. Until Open Office started making
inroads . . .
Perhaps, but I think many of these articles are often written without
that level of thought as to the imlications of some of the terminology,
which is often misused anyway.