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2007-06-19 10:07:54 PM
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:06:33 +0200, XXXX@XXXXX.COM writes:
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Erwin van den Bosch
 

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:02:25 +0100, "Pete Fraser"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
--
Erwin van den Bosch
 

than:
Fortran, but because a source file that mixes several languages is a nightmare
to maintain. Again, for mixing several languages have a look at .NET, there you
will have them separated in different units that can interoperate on the level
of functions, types and objects, without any special action to take.
It would be sweet though, if we could mix different language modules in native
applications.
 

Erwin van den Bosch writes:
 

ROTFLMAO
Getting up now .. back to my lonely job as the last Delphi programmer .. :-)
 

I do this all the time in C++ Builder, although I am limited
to Delphi/C++ at present.
Rgds Pete
"Mael Horz" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

Hello Erwin van den Bosch,
Because C++ is the mother of all pains in the butt. Been there, got the
tshirt and the headache too. The only thing I really miss from C++ is the
STL. Delphi needs something like that: it is a serious hole in the product.
C++ crazy sintax and semantics hogs your brain cells and starves all other
processes. Wait a minute, what was "static" suposed to mean this particular
context? No thanks, not again.
Personally I am going with Delphi for Win32 and Smalltalk + Seaside for web
stuff. The "real world" can do whatever fits it best.
 

project like CPPBuilder can include PAS files in C projects would be
nice... nicer than porting the code anyway, and nicer than having to
deal with a .OBJ or DLL.
Eric
 

"Pete Fraser" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
Even though the latter list were shorter, it was more impressive.
Of course there are bound to be good applications written in Delphi. There
are even good applications written in Erlang (I use no application written
in Delphi daily, except in house stuff, but I regularly use an Erlang
application). However, for each relatively widespread Delphi application,
there are probably hundereds of C/C++ applications.
 

"Pete Fraser" wrote
www.twinforms.com .
Thanks,
Kathire
Cross platform Form Designer for C++ Builder
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
www.twinforms.com/
 

Erwin van den Bosch schrieb:
[snip]
for virus/worm etc. attacks etc.
...or shooting themselves otherwise in the foot with this unsecure
language (pointers{*word*154} around everywhere...)...
Greetings
Markus
 

"Martijn Tonies" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
That statement is absolutely correct in regards to Delphi.
 

"Tom" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
 

"Markus.Humm" wrote
types in a language like pchar in delphi to construct string etc, you might
get the same problem. Even with Delphi you can create dangling pointers (but
there are amazing free tools to find them and it is very expensive in C++).
If you use a decent Framework (wxWidgets/QT), then you can get around with
those problem like you get around with Delphi.
Thanks,
Kathire
Cross platform Form Designer for C++ Builder
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
www.twinforms.com/
 

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:21:21 -0400, "Serge Dosyukov \(Dragon Soft\)"
<pooh996.gmail.com>writes:
for how long? Our company doesn't like CG's roadmap. We have our own
roadmap. That includes multi-OS applications. We have no other choice
then to leave Delphi.
It's very disappointing that what used to be the best compiler
builders company isn't capable of building a lightning fast compiler
for other OS's like Linux and OSX.
But there's nothing we can do about it. it is their decision. We have
to live with that. They say they are a commercial company. They think
about making profit. Linux and OSX is not profitable. (ask Steve Jobs
about that!) I think CG can't think in long time terms. They only
plan things for the next year and a half. They have no vision. They
only following Microsoft. I hope for CG that dot NET does make a
profit.
--
Erwin van den Bosch
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