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John Pressman
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John Pressman
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Re: Confused about which way to go2003-11-17 05:41:27 PM delphi243 "Jeff Undercash" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes | Which way are you and your company going? PHP if you really want to know :-) |
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
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2003-11-17 05:53:18 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
Markus Rautenberg writes:
Quote>If you deploy via CD or DVD, I think you can redistribute the Quote>My Windows XP installed it without me asking. Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." - Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968) |
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
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2003-11-17 07:50:14 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
Markus Rautenberg writes:
Quote>My copy of Windows XP came with SP1a and the .NET framework. -- Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal." - Henry Ford (1863-1947) |
Markus Rautenberg
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2003-11-17 08:38:27 PM
Re: Confused about which way to goQuoteMy copy of Windows XP came with SP1a and the .NET framework. |
Kirk Halgren
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2003-11-17 11:20:07 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Peter Morris [Droopy Eyes Software]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
message news:3fb7bfe6$XXXX@XXXXX.COM... Quote>1. C Sharp Builder - Borland's version of Microsoft's new programming Kirk Halgren |
Dave Jewell
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2003-11-18 12:00:13 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteIf you deploy via CD or DVD, I think you can redistribute the framework Dave |
Dave Jewell
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2003-11-18 12:05:27 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Lauchlan M" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteI think there is a third party package that gets it to link parts of the QuoteBut isn't it too early to sledge Borland for not including something like creating stand-alone C# apps which don't require the presence of the .NET runtime. This is nothing to do with Delphi.NET. Dave |
Dave Jewell
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2003-11-18 12:06:10 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Kirk Halgren" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteAfter Longhorn hits (admittedly in the future) .net will be the native |
Kirk Halgren
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2003-11-18 02:47:31 AM
Re: Confused about which way to goQuoteNo. It will be the *preferred* Windows API. Huge, huge difference. "Dave Jewell" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes |
Joanna Carter (TeamB)
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2003-11-18 06:11:12 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
Kirk Halgren writes:
| Then what is the native API to be? By the time we get to Lonhorn the native API will be .NET and Win32 will be a compatibility layer. (or so I hear) Joanna Consultant Software Engineer TeamBUG support for UK-BUG TeamMM support for ModelMaker |
Kirk Halgren
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2003-11-18 07:28:48 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Joanna Carter (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteKirk Halgren writes: to access the functions? Will the help files be written in C# instead of C? Kirk Halgren |
Edmund
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2003-11-18 05:44:33 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
Jeff Undercash cried "Banzai!" and then writes::
QuoteSeems like Borland is going in so many different directions I am having a new step for me. Before Delphi 7, I used D4 and I just really got turned off of it. Delphi 1 was the most useful Delphi I have used. I'm a dBplus (used to be called Visual dBase, which was Borland's product for a while until dBase Inc. took control) programmer and use Delphi7 on the side for some personal projects. But as it stands, it is really hard trying to divert one's attention to multiple languages without either getting syntax-confused or getting a headache or both. ("Dammit! Why doesn't " i = 10" work in Delphi7? It works in dBplus!.. Oh wait.. darn forgot the semicolon.") Ok, it is a very simple case of mistaken identity; but it does happen. I suppose I am not the type of person to try different languages at the same time. Those who do, I applaud them. (C/C++/C#/Delphi/VB.Net/python/perl/etc... my goodness! There's really no way anyone can program properly knowing all those languages... Seriously, I am going to take a semi-active approach. I am d/ling C#Builder personal as I write and hopefully that will allow me to understand what the smeg this whole thing is all about. .NET seems like the future, but who knows what the future holds? An asteroid could just wipe this Earth clean of inhabitants, and any remaining survivors wouldn't give a toodles what language was used; it just wasn't that language that helped protect the Earth. (weak grin) I know what I wrote doesn't help. I am just confused myself it's just frustrating. There's just WAY too many languages out there. Just not enough time or brain cells to learn them all. It's either specialize in one or two, or become a "Jack of all trades, but master at none". |
Dave Jewell
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2003-11-18 10:00:57 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Joanna Carter (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteBy the time we get to Lonhorn the native API will be .NET and Win32 will framework methods will replace Win32 as the "native" Windows API. In fact, strictly speaking, Win32 isn't native either. The only *real* native API set hosted by NT variants is the (largely undocumented) NTDLL functionality. Everything else sits on top of this and I am very confident that that won't change under LongHorn. Hence, .NET will be the "preferred" (by Microsoft <g>) API under Longhorn but it certainly won't be native. Dave |
Jason
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2003-11-18 10:26:45 PM
Re: Confused about which way to go
"Edmund" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes news:3fb9ea5e$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
QuoteJeff Undercash cried "Banzai!" and then writes:: enough, but noooooo, "let's change this, oopps, only works on MY OS"!! If we would all settle down with one syntax we would have reusable code. I hear so often, "don't re-invent the wheel, use our libraries", NO, you don't reinvent the wheel and make me use your libraries with your pathetic new language!!! |
Joe Real
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2003-11-19 02:56:30 AM
Re: Confused about which way to go
In article <3fb91891$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, XXXX@XXXXX.COM says...
|>No. It will be the *preferred* Windows API. Huge, huge difference. |> |>Dave |> | |Then what is the native API to be? MS-DOS Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! |