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Captain Jake

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Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?


2004-06-27 11:06:03 AM
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Derek Davidson <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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To attempt to present a viewpoint
of something you are not is at least disingenuous.
You mean like commenting on Delphi 8 usage without being a Delphi 8 user?
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Captain Jake

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 11:10:39 AM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

Ben Hochstrasser <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch>writes
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But developers usually claim to be the "best of breed".
A laughable claim most of the time.
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Captain Jake

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2004-06-27 11:15:54 AM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

I R T <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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The reality is that the "best of the breed" are generally doing medicine or law.
The entry marks for both are far higher than for comp sci programs.
A comp sci degree doesn't seem to me to be very well correlated with being a
"best of breed" software developer.
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Captain Jake

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 11:36:57 AM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

"David Erbas-White" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Driving your car does NOT properly prepare you to comment on someone who
DOES drive a car for a living. While you might be able to be aware of
the hazards of traffic (for example), you would not be able to comment
on other aspects that might affect a UPS driver, a truck driver, a taxi
driver, or many others. There are many OTHER aspects of each job that
you will not have had the experience to comment on -- so while you're
correct, you can comment on how YOUR CAR performs, you would not be
suited to comment on those who drive cars for a living, and how YOUR CAR
might be appropriate/inappropriate to THEIR specific needs.
I take it that you don't vote in elections, since you have never done the
presidency or political representation for a living. What is your
qualification for commenting on those who do the presidency or political
representation for a living? Did you actually do those jobs for a living?
 
Oliver Townshend

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 11:37:20 AM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

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And yet people feel qualified to vote for the president of the U.S.
without
having been president of the U.S. themselves. What is a vote but the
ultimate
comment?
Technically Americans vote for an Elect{*word*203}Council, which votes for the
President. So you don't vote for the President, but for vastly more
experienced people (cough) who do.
Oliver Townshend
 
Captain Jake

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 11:49:46 AM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

"Oliver Townshend" <oliver_at_zip_com_au>writes
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>And yet people feel qualified to vote for the president of the U.S.
 without
>having been president of the U.S. themselves. What is a vote but the
 ultimate
>comment?
Technically Americans vote for an Elect{*word*203}Council, which votes for the
President. So you don't vote for the President, but for vastly more
experienced people (cough) who do.
True but not really relevant, since it is the belief that people are
qualfied to comment on the jobs of the president and congress that is the
salient point here. The analogy still stands.
 
Oliver Townshend

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 12:03:17 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

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True but not really relevant, since it is the belief that people are
qualfied to comment on the jobs of the president and congress that is the
salient point here. The analogy still stands.
Of course. I have always thought that only Economists should be allowed to
comment on the economy mind you :)
Oliver Townshend
 
Jeff Overcash (TeamB)

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 12:42:38 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

David Smith writes:
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David Erbas-White writes:

>a position to comment on it. As a specific, simple example, the fact
 >that BCB has been dropped by Borland has now made me look like a fool in
 >the eyes of one client, because we are stuck with a dead tool that
 >doesn't support WinXP. We now have to modify things to make the best of
On a different note, didn't I read somewhere that maybe BCB isn't as
dead as it was used to be?
If it is dead maybe someone should tell the BCB team to stop working.
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I suggest that you'd at least wait until the
letter. Yes, I know, it is *very* late already...

David
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I R T

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 01:01:13 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

"Captain Jake" <johnjac76[nospam]@comcast.net>writes:
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>The reality is that the "best of the breed" are generally doing medicine or law.
 >The entry marks for both are far higher than for comp sci programs.
A comp sci degree doesn't seem to me to be very well correlated with being a
"best of breed" software developer.
The ones without a comp sci degree have even claim to call themselves best of
anything.
 
I R T

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 01:02:51 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

"Jeff Overcash (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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>On a different note, didn't I read somewhere that maybe BCB isn't as
 >dead as it was used to be?
If it is dead maybe someone should tell the BCB team to stop working.
What are they working on ?
CBX or the next product that Borland wants to drop ?
 
William

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 01:33:08 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

Captain Jake writes:
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A comp sci degree doesn't seem to me to be very well correlated with
being a "best of breed" software developer.
The application of software to fields other than software constitutes
most of the commercial work out there. What claim does a comp sci
degree to expertise in finance, management, medical research, etc?
Bill
 
William

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 01:34:26 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

Captain Jake writes:
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Odd perhaps, but non uncommon. Personally, I find programmers to be
absurd as often as the rest of the populace, which is to say they
usually are quite absurd.
Yes, it is not so much the failure to apply logic as to apply reason
that depresses me.
Bill
 
William

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 01:35:39 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

Captain Jake writes:
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Then I must be a f***ing genius, since I am a professional software
developer that makes a living by using a tool that is not even
"viable".
I'm proud of you, Jake ;)
Bill
 
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 04:04:44 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

At 01:48:22, 27.06.2004, I R T writes:
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"Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

>>>That is quite insulting.
 >>
 >>No, I am sorry Rudy - I tend to agree with what was said.
 >
 >Yes, of course you would.
And of course you wouldnt.
Doh!
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2004-06-27 04:07:10 PM

Re: Is anything spectacular going to happen around Delphi anymore?

At 01:51:43, 27.06.2004, I R T writes:
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"Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:


>>Please lets not degenerate ANOTHER thread on bl**dy pedantry.
 >
 >I don't think he was pedantic. Your reply was not very polite, OTOH.
And you are wrong.
I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking
of taking a course?
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