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Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)


2005-02-09 07:05:12 AM
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Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
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..and you're "anti Borland's research is credible".

I'm hoping that this demonstrates that this labelling of "anti" this
and "pro" that, is useless waffle.

One can use "anti" and "pro" to convey more meaning in a few words than many.
I think using "anti" and "pro" can be very useful at times.
As with any English constructs,
I think they can be misused and abused.
 
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
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ie, you're "anti Borland's decision to not create a Delphi 64-bit
product at this time". Can we cut out the "anti" waffle now, please? It
serves no useful purpose and borders close to personal attacks.

You can stop using "anti" if you want.
As for me,
I'm not attack anyone here.
If your pro-Delphi .net or Anti-Delphi-64x,
that's ok with me.
( Actually, it is quite the opposite.
You are attacking my personal speech and
Nick already called me hypocrite.
)
PS please stop trying to call me speech "waffle".
That's really annoying.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Michael Anonymous writes:
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PS please stop trying to call me speech "waffle".
Quit trying to unjustly and improperly label me and others.
It's annoying.
--
Nick Hodges -- TeamB
Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com
Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:


>I have tried very hard not to make my statements personal attacks.


Trying is not enough.
Your right, my actions speak louder than words.
I haven't attack you personally in this thread.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Michael Anonymous writes:
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I think using "anti" and "pro" can be very useful at times.
I think they can be misused and abused.
They certainly have been abused in this thread.
--
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"True peace is not the absence of tension, but the presence of
justice." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:


>PS please stop trying to call me speech "waffle".


Quit trying to unjustly and improperly label me and others.
It's annoying.

I'm not labeling you or any other TeamB member unjustly.
I have found several TeamB people to be "anti Delphi x64" based on their statements.
I have explained why.
That's my opinion.
You don't have to agree with it.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:

>I think using "anti" and "pro" can be very useful at times.
>I think they can be misused and abused.


They certainly have been abused in this thread.

Of course, that is your opinion.
I don't agree.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Michael Anonymous writes:
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I'm not labeling you or any other TeamB member unjustly.
Regardless of whether the labelling is unjust or improper, it is still
bordering on personal attack (since it is directed at the person), not
to mention useless to the discussion.
--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
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Regardless of whether the labelling is unjust or improper, it is still
bordering on personal attack (since it is directed at the person), not
to mention useless to the discussion.

I have already told you I am not attacking you or any other TeamB member personally.
So please don't draw any conclusions.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Michael Anonymous writes:
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I have already told you I am not attacking you or any other TeamB
member personally. So please don't draw any conclusions.
I think you are anti-.net, anti-Borland, and anti-kitten.
I'm not attacking you or anyone else personally. Please don't draw any
conclusions.
--
Nick Hodges -- TeamB
Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com
Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:

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>I have already told you I am not attacking you or any other TeamB
>member personally. So please don't draw any conclusions.

I think you are anti-.net, anti-Borland,
Tsk, tsk.
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and anti-kitten.
Unforgivable!
--
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de
"Hell is other people."
- Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980)
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

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Regardless of whether the labelling is unjust or improper, it is still
bordering on personal attack (since it is directed at the person), not
to mention useless to the discussion.
You are right but labeling is also employed by some of TeamB members.
I can't recall one member of TeamB criticizing the other
for that kind of behavior and while being "legal" according
to policies it does not leave one with the good impression.
Kostya
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:

>I'm not labeling you or any other TeamB member unjustly.

Regardless of whether the labelling is unjust or improper, it is still
bordering on personal attack (since it is directed at the person), not
to mention useless to the discussion.
Dears, we are really tired of that situation.500 msg at day the people
stop calling names and figthing?
The people is going out of that NG.
You seem like childs, all!
And TeamB members, again, you must mantain the peace, dont start the
fire or continue the figth!
German.
P.S.: I put my votes to 64 bits compiler, but i HATE that stupid
discussions. If you really want more votes just put a foot in your post
promoting that and stop figthing!
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Kostya writes:
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You are right but labeling is also employed by some of TeamB members.
Oh please. None of us is /insisting/ on labels despite clear
statements to the contrary from the members themselves.
Sorry, it is just rude and irritating.
--
Nick Hodges -- TeamB
Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com
Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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Michael Anonymous writes:


>I have already told you I am not attacking you or any other TeamB
>member personally. So please don't draw any conclusions.


I think you are anti-.net, anti-Borland, and anti-kitten.

I'm not attacking you or anyone else personally. Please don't draw any
conclusions.

If you showed me where I argued against or
made self-contradictory statements about
.NEt, Borland, kitten, you may have a point.
As a reader,
you can form your own opinions about where
I stand on the issues - that is your right.
But I have stated that I am not anti-Borland.
And I have tried very hard not to argue against Borland's business.
I have already stated that I think a Delphi x64 product would make Borland a profit.
I may be anti-Microsoft.NET because I think the performance stinks.
I have argued that point before as well.
I have never stated I was for or against kittens.
Please let me clarify my point of view as a reader.
Some of you on TeamB have made self-contradictory statements
that some readers - including myself -
have interpreted that you are "against" a Delphi x64 product.
In clarification,
some TeamB members have stated that they are "for a Delphi x64" product
and then proceeded to make arguments AGAINST why such a product should be developed.
Furthermore, I have never seen a TeamB member make an argument
FOR why Delphi x64 should be developed.
These leads me to conclude, as a reader,
that there are TeamB members who are being "anti-Delphi-x64" in their arguments:
They are arguing against a Delphi x64 product.
Now, please note that I am not personally attacking you.
I never called you a name.
I'm expressing my personal viewpoint.