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An Open Letter To InstallAware


2007-06-24 04:41:26 AM
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Bill NordStrom
COO
InstallAware
Mr. Nordstrom,
We have communicated via email on this very issue. You have assured me
that InstallAware would no longer use my trademark and brand youseful as a
keyword on the various search engines. Yet It is still being used. Bill...,
This is disrespectful. InstallAware sadly seems un-aware the history,
meaning behind that word youseful.
When Delphi was presented to the world, It represented a new way of doing
things. A RADical methodology of software development. It offered a new
powerful system of lightweight reusable software model known as VCL
components that is extensible. A number of eager creative developers jumped
on the chance that Delphi offered. They put in long hours, by the sweat of
their brow the third party market was soon flooded with components that
encapsulated software domains of every conceivable type. One was the
Youseful Installation Components.
Youseful was the embodiment of the promise of Delphi. The complex affair
of installation broken down into discrete components. Each component has
properties and events. All of which could be used at a higher conceptual
level via a wizard. It was all built into the IDE long before anyone else.
It embodied the ideal of setup as source back in 1996. Youseful is the
measure by which I evaluate my work. Is it done well?, is it innovate?
Youseful epitomizes the promise of Delphi. It fulfilled the promise of
Delphi. Excellence, Innovation, Extensibility. Youseful demonstrated the
power of Delphi. As I was fond of saying Anything you can do in Delphi , you
can do in Youseful. The advent of windows installer changed all that.
Youseful is something I believe in, dedicated the last 10 years to. It is
wrong
to use our dedication to excellence, innovation,integrity and extensibility,
namely Youseful to hawk your wares. I understand that InstallAware is the
new kid on the block. It however doesn't give InstallAware license to be a
bully.
Bill, I implore InstallAware to do the right thing not the easy thing -
grab the money and run.
Joe Mele
Chief Executive Manager
MELE Systems, LLC dba Youseful Software
--
www.filemakersearch.org
www.delphimagazine.net
FileMaker Business Alliance Member
CodeGear Technology Partner
www.fmplugin.net
www.melesystems.com
www.youseful.com
forums.youseful.net
 
 

Re:An Open Letter To InstallAware

You are urging Bill to grab the money and run?
Why do we need to know about it? What is this all about?
"Anything you can do in Delphi, you can do in Youseful."
Although I am not familiar with the product, I really doubt it.
 

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You are urging Bill to grab the money and run?
Why do we need to know about it? What is this all about?
No, no, he's saying that would be the easy thing.
Presumably the term - the trademark - "Youseful" was invented by Joseph Mele
for his product, and InstallAware have used the word in some metadata on
their web pages, thus ensuring that web searches for "Youseful" end up at
InstallAware.
Is that a correct interpretation, Joseph?
Steve
 

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Joseph Mele writes:
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Bill NordStrom
COO
InstallAware

Mr. Nordstrom,

We have communicated via email on this very issue. You have assured me
that InstallAware would no longer use my trademark and brand youseful as a
keyword on the various search engines. Yet It is still being used. Bill...,
This is disrespectful. InstallAware sadly seems un-aware the history,
meaning behind that word youseful.
...
Mr Mele,
I think it is highly inappropriate and unprofessional for you to air a
business dispute you are having with another company in such a public forum.
If you have a grievance with InstallAware, you should take it up with
your legal counsel, not non-technical!
M J Marshall - King Stairs Software
 

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Steve Thackery writes:
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>You are urging Bill to grab the money and run?
>Why do we need to know about it? What is this all about?

No, no, he's saying that would be the easy thing.

Presumably the term - the trademark - "Youseful" was invented by
Joseph Mele for his product, and InstallAware have used the word in
some metadata on their web pages, thus ensuring that web searches for
"Youseful" end up at InstallAware.
If I Google for "youseful", I get Youseful Software as first hit, but
above, I see a sponsored link for InstallAware Software.
I guess that sponsored link for that search text is the problem.
--
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.de
"Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never
know what you're gonna get." -- Forest Gump
 

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It is not a dispute. They are using it. I have been asking nicely in
private for a while for them tos stop. Those are the facts.
It needs to stop. thats it.
As for airing this dispute. Bullies rely on that to get away with it.
Joe Mele
Chief Executive Manager
MELE Systems, LLC dba Youseful Software
--
www.filemakersearch.org
www.delphimagazine.net
FileMaker Business Alliance Member
CodeGear Technology Partner
www.fmplugin.net
www.melesystems.com
www.youseful.com
forums.youseful.net
"M J Marshall [King Stairs Software]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
message news:467d9b79$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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Joseph Mele writes:
>Bill NordStrom
>COO
>InstallAware
>
>Mr. Nordstrom,
>
>We have communicated via email on this very issue. You have assured me
>that InstallAware would no longer use my trademark and brand youseful as
>a
>keyword on the various search engines. Yet It is still being used.
>Bill...,
>This is disrespectful. InstallAware sadly seems un-aware the history,
>meaning behind that word youseful.
>...

Mr Mele,
I think it is highly inappropriate and unprofessional for you to air a
business dispute you are having with another company in such a public
forum.

If you have a grievance with InstallAware, you should take it up with your
legal counsel, not non-technical!

M J Marshall - King Stairs Software
 

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I think it is highly inappropriate and unprofessional for you to air a
business dispute you are having with another company in such a public
forum.

If you have a grievance with InstallAware, you should take it up with your
legal counsel, not non-technical!
I totally agree, this is so wrong!
 

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"Steve Thackery" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes news:467d998a$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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Presumably the term - the trademark - "Youseful" was invented by Joseph Mele
Can you give me a link to the trademark registration details, please?
 

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M J
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I think it is highly inappropriate and unprofessional for you to air a
business dispute you are having with another company in such a public
forum.

If you have a grievance with InstallAware, you should take it up with
your legal counsel, not non-technical!
I totally disagree. I prefer to evaluate a company I am contemplating
doing business with on both technical and ethical criteria. To do the
latter effectively it is necessary for any allegations of sleazy
behaviour to be publicised and rebutted if unfair/untrue. If you have
done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide.
Eryk
PS: TeamB cancel bots at work again. Yawn - switch to google - childish
delusions of netcop omnipotence defeated - again. This is getting tiresome.
 

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Steve Thackery writes:
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Presumably the term - the trademark - "Youseful" was invented by
Joseph Mele for his product, and InstallAware have used the word in
some metadata on their web pages, thus ensuring that web searches for
"Youseful" end up at InstallAware.
Just for the record, I did a search for Youseful on google and got
nothing back for InstallAware. I do however have a question (Not sure
if this is the case). How is someone supposed to advertise the fact
that they can convert from one installer format to their own if they
can't mention the product by name?
--
Dean
 

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Dean Hill writes:
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How is someone supposed to advertise the fact that they can convert
from one installer format to their own if they can not mention the
product by name?
Perhaps a more relevant question is why someone would add a feature to
their product if they can not advertise it.
IMHO, the first thing a vendor should do before adding such a conversion
utility is either (a) contact the other vendor and work out an
agreement, or (b) if applicable implement a RFC or some other shared
standard and refer only to that standard.
 

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If you have a grievance with InstallAware, you should take it up with your
legal counsel, not non-technical!
Since he has no legal right to his trademarks in google adwords, I doubt it
would be worth the time.
Oliver Townshend
 

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"Dean Hill" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Steve Thackery writes:
Just for the record, I did a search for Youseful on google and got
nothing back for InstallAware. I do however have a question (Not sure
if this is the case). How is someone supposed to advertise the fact
that they can convert from one installer format to their own if they
can't mention the product by name?
I did the same thing and InstallAware is the first item in the list.
 

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"Henrick Hellström" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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IMHO, the first thing a vendor should do before adding such a conversion
utility is either (a) contact the other vendor and work out an agreement,
or (b) if applicable implement a RFC or some other shared standard and
refer only to that standard.
We have conversion from our competitors system and we didn't (and won't) ask
them a d*mn thing.
It's competition!
So why show your hand to them so that they can put up a defense?
But, we also don't use our competitors name on our site or software.