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Max
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Max
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Alvaro GP
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2005-06-13 08:02:29 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Max writes:
Quotecomments? |
Oliver Townshend
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2005-06-13 08:20:39 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
A never-ending patch cycle? No thanks. Once a product is stable I would like
it to just sit and mature. My experience with software development is that you get your software working with a certain set of libraries, compilers, components etc. Then someone releases a new version and you have to QA everything again. If that was happening every month, I would go insane. I'd rather have QC accumulate work arounds, and serious bugs get patched. Oliver Townshend |
Erwien Saputra
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2005-06-13 08:20:39 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Max writes:
Quotecomments? developers. 3rd party components may be affected with the patch. If a problem with 3rd party components was found after several patches had been applied, finding out which patch caused the problem is difficult and takes time. Wien. -- blogs.slcdug.org/esaputra Delphi Setting Manager - www.codeline.net |
John Herbster
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2005-06-13 08:25:23 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
"Erwien Saputra" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
QuoteBad idea. Monthly patch may not be tested thoroughly. [...] |
Alvaro GP
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2005-06-13 08:29:11 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Max writes:
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Michael Stum
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2005-06-13 08:32:25 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Max schrieb:
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Erwien Saputra
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2005-06-13 09:06:02 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
John Herbster writes:
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Wien. -- blogs.slcdug.org/esaputra Delphi Setting Manager - www.codeline.net |
John Jacobson
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2005-06-13 10:04:59 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
"Alvaro GP" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteI propose another thing: release the source code of Delphi and fix it |
Angra Mainyu
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2005-06-13 11:07:08 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
"Erwien Saputra" wrote
QuoteJohn Herbster writes: VS.NET 2002 - released Apr 2002 - 1 SP released Mar 2005 VS.NET 2003 - released Jun 2003 - no SP released to date. There has also been hot patches released from time to time usually aimed at a specific problem and they are rolled into the next service pack. I don't have the hot patch history for these development tools but IIRC they hasn't been all that many. On the whole it seems to me that VS.NET has a much better record than Delphi 2005 (3 SPs in 6 months) and to a large measure I attribute this to a slower release cycle and the lengthly public beta program. |
Thomas Miller
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2005-06-13 11:27:53 AM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Hot fixes are the way to go. They are unofficial fixes that
if someone really needs it can use it and test it before it makes it into an official fully tested SP. Lots of companies do it with great success. What I like about hot fixes is I get to choose whether I want to use it. Max writes: Quotecomments? Wash DC Delphi SIG Chairperson Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork www.bss-software.com www.cpcug.org/user/delphi/index.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus |
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
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2005-06-13 02:22:54 PM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
At 02:02:29, 13.06.2005, Alvaro GP writes:
QuoteMax writes: Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] velthuis.homepage.t-online.de "What do you take me for, an idiot?" -- General Charles de Gaulle (1890-1970), when a journalist asked him if he was happy |
Francois Malan
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2005-06-13 02:37:01 PM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Imagine the posts on these groups:
Post: Problem with "blah blah blah" Using D205 Update 3 , Hotfixes #s 1,2,7,9,12 Reply: Try hotfix #3, 4 Post tried that, does not work. Reply: Remove Hotfix #7 (casued problems for me) but apply hotfix #10 (in which case remove hotfix #12 if you have less than 1 gigi of ram) ond so it can go on and on... "Thomas Miller" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteHot fixes are the way to go. They are unofficial fixes that |
SiegfriedN
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2005-06-13 04:57:27 PM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Oliver Townshend writes:
QuoteA never-ending patch cycle? No thanks. Once a product is stable I would like your code to a new version? Think CHOICE! WRT Delphi.. IDE patches should not affect your code and patches can be (should be) released frequently. Compilers - the same thing. Read the change logs and see how it affects you if (if at all) Use when you need it. Releasing frequent patches creates more goodwill with your customers than just sitting quietly and doing nothing and unfortunately B is in a negative balance in this regard (e.g. Kylix in particular) :( siegs |
SiegfriedN
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2005-06-13 04:59:54 PM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Francois Malan writes:
QuoteImagine the posts on these groups: siegs |
SiegfriedN
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2005-06-13 05:11:41 PM
Re:Proposal: Borland Patch Day (once a month)
Oliver Townshend writes:
QuoteMy experience with software development is that you get your software siegs |