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Re: Software Assurance


2007-07-03 03:25:01 AM
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Warrick Wilson writes:
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What do I pay in the SECOND year, and what does that cover?
You pay the SA part only, and you get all updates and upgrades for the
year term.
Does that clear it up?
--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges
 
 

Re: Software Assurance

"Nick Hodges (CodeGear)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Warrick Wilson writes:

>What do I pay in the SECOND year, and what does that cover?

You pay the SA part only, and you get all updates and upgrades for the
year term.

Does that clear it up?
Yup. that is great. Thanks to all...
 

Re: Software Assurance

Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
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You pay the SA part only, and you get all updates and upgrades for the
year term.

I've upgraded from BDS2006 to BCB2007, and bought studio SA. which
hopefully entitles me to D2007. However, I don't know how to actually
get hold of it...?
- Roddy
 

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Roddy Pratt writes:
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Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
>You pay the SA part only, and you get all updates and upgrades for the
>year term.
>

I've upgraded from BDS2006 to BCB2007, and bought studio SA. which
hopefully entitles me to D2007. However, I don't know how to actually
get hold of it...?

- Roddy

Go to Customer Downloads on Code Gear site. If your new license has
been updated there you should be able to get to Delphi 2007 downloads.
 

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Sorry, Delphi Developer Downloads..dvd image files and 7zip files of Delphi.
 

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Roddy Pratt writes:
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I've upgraded from BDS2006 to BCB2007, and bought studio SA. which
hopefully entitles me to D2007. However, I don't know how to actually
get hold of it...?
My understanding of this, per a posting from David Dean over in
cppbuilder, is that because you purchased Studio SA *after* Delphi 2007
was released, you do not qualify for Delphi 2007. you will have to wait for
BDS 2007/Highlander to get any Delphi bits.
Which makes accounting sense, or, in other words, no sense at all.
--
-Brion
There's no such thing as 'one, true way;'
- Mercedes Lackey
 

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Brion L. Webster brought next idea :
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Roddy Pratt writes:

>I've upgraded from BDS2006 to BCB2007, and bought studio SA. which
>hopefully entitles me to D2007. However, I don't know how to actually
>get hold of it...?

My understanding of this, per a posting from David Dean over in cppbuilder,
is that because you purchased Studio SA *after* Delphi 2007 was released, you
do not qualify for Delphi 2007. you will have to wait for BDS 2007/Highlander
to get any Delphi bits.

Which makes accounting sense, or, in other words, no sense at all.
Highlander should be out in several months
if you can hold out that long to get it
for "free."
Brad.
 

Re: Software Assurance

In article <468a85cc$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Brion L. Webster" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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My understanding of this, per a posting from David Dean over in
cppbuilder, is that because you purchased Studio SA *after* Delphi 2007
was released, you do not qualify for Delphi 2007. you will have to wait for
BDS 2007/Highlander to get any Delphi bits.

Which makes accounting sense, or, in other words, no sense at all.
AIUI, SA entitles you to any covered products that are released
during the term of your SA. Delphi 2007 was released in March of 2007. If you
buy SA today, D2007's release occurred outside of your SA contract
period.
I could have this completely wrong, I don't follow the
finance/marketing/sales side of the fence very closely.
--
-David Dean
CodeGear C++ QA Engineer
<blogs.codegear.com/ddean/>
 

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David Dean [CodeGear] writes:
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AIUI, SA entitles you to any covered products that are released
during the term of your SA. Delphi 2007 was released in March of 2007. If you
buy SA today, D2007's release occurred outside of your SA contract
period.
I could have this completely wrong, I don't follow the
finance/marketing/sales side of the fence very closely.
But it is still the current release in the Studio level of SA products. Or
BDS 2006 is, or something like that. Studio level SA ought to include all
current products, IMO, now that they've been piece mealed out again.
Hope it doesn't seem that I am blaming you, just wanted to attribute my
info correctly.
--
-Brion
There's no such thing as 'one, true way;'
- Mercedes Lackey
 

Re: Software Assurance

In article <468a9d5a$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Brion L. Webster" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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But it is still the current release in the Studio level of SA products. Or
BDS 2006 is, or something like that. Studio level SA ought to include all
current products, IMO, now that they've been piece mealed out again.
IM(personal)O, that would be nice. It would be a gesture of good will
and a smart thing to do. I /think/ this is another of those legal
hurdles that we aren't prepared to jump though.
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Hope it doesn't seem that I am blaming you, just wanted to attribute my
info correctly.
I took no offense.
--
-David Dean
CodeGear C++ QA Engineer
<blogs.codegear.com/ddean/>
 

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David Dean [CodeGear] writes:
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AIUI, SA entitles you to any covered products that are released
during the term of your SA. Delphi 2007 was released in March of 2007. If
you buy SA today, D2007's release occurred outside of your SA
contract period.
I understand what you're saying, but if that is really the case, I'm
going to be seriously annoyed. BCB2007 without Delphi 2007 is of no use to me.
So, if you bought D2007+SA on day D-1, you get BCB2007 as well. But if
you buy the same on day D+1, you don't. This was *not* well
communicated, and puts BCB2007 users back as second-class citizens all
over again.
Speaking of which, what news of a C++ product manager?
- Roddy
--
 

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Roddy Pratt writes:
and puts BCB2007 users back as second-class citizens all
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over again.

Speaking of which, what news of a C++ product manager?

- Roddy

At least you got the cool Poseidon splash screen. ;)
 

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In article <468aa8f7$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Roddy Pratt" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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puts BCB2007 users back as second-class citizens all
over again.
I can understand why you feel that way, but it wasn't an intentional
slight. We have to treat them as separate products since they were
released that way. There is some incentive to not do this again. (This
hasn't been formally decided yet though)
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Speaking of which, what news of a C++ product manager?
We're all anxiously waiting to see how it turns out.
--
-David Dean
CodeGear C++ QA Engineer
<blogs.codegear.com/ddean/>
 

Re: Software Assurance

David Dean [CodeGear] writes:
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In article <468aa8f7$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Roddy Pratt" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

>puts BCB2007 users back as second-class citizens all
>over again.

I can understand why you feel that way, but it wasn't an intentional
slight. We have to treat them as separate products since they were
released that way. There is some incentive to not do this again. (This
hasn't been formally decided yet though)
For shops dependent on C++ Builder that also use Delphi it leaves
an upgrade from BDS2006 priced awfully high. They have to upgrade
to Delphi 2007 and C++ Builder 2007 separately then add Studio
level SA going forward to one of the upgrades.
Studio SA should really include current versions of covered products
or there should be a 'Studio' SKU available for purchase now
that includes Delphi 2007 and C++ Builder 2007 at less than
a full upgrade price for both.
Brian
 

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David Dean [CodeGear] writes:
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There is some incentive to not do this
again. (This hasn't been formally decided yet though)
This is a mess (not of your making, David - I am just venting steam).
I think should probably hassle Nick direct on this: The only reason I
didn't get the Delphi 2007 upgrade at Coderage was the endless c*ck*ps over
the discount codes for the UK "shop".
If I would thought for one picosecond that buying BCB2007 instead of D2007
would have dumped me in this hole...
- Roddy