RAD Studio 2009?

Dennis Cote

Delphi Developer

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

2008-07-24 05:30:47 AM
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Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) writes:

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There will be no RAD Studio release as part of Tiburon.

Are you saying that those who need both the Delphi and C++ personalities

will need to buy two separate IDEs, Delphi 2009 and C++Builder 2009?
If so, will they install as a single integrated IDE, or will they
actually install as two separate products?
Dennis Cote

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero)

Delphi Developer

2008-07-24 07:00:10 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Dennis Cote writes:

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Are you saying that those who need both the Delphi and C++
personalities will need to buy two separate IDEs, Delphi 2009 and
C++Builder 2009?
We will be offering a bundle of the two of them together at a nice

price.

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If so, will they install as a single integrated IDE, or will they
actually install as two separate products?
They'll integrate together.

--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero
blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges

Bill Mullen

Delphi Developer

2008-07-24 07:14:54 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

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Dennis Cote writes:

>Are you saying that those who need both the Delphi and C++
>personalities will need to buy two separate IDEs, Delphi 2009 and
>C++Builder 2009?

We will be offering a bundle of the two of them together at a nice
price.

Since they aren't RAD will those of us with RAD SA get Tiburon?

Delphi Developer

2008-07-24 05:34:02 PM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Actually I wouldn't mind if D2007.Net only had a few minor updates but
otherwise carried straight over and integrated into RAD Studio 2009. (=
"D2007.Net with updates + D2009 Win32")
Would save the trouble of installing both RAD Studio 2007 & D2009 as
separate products, since we're using the combination of ASP.Net & Win32
quite heavily.
Anyway, I am just happy to start working with D2009 Win32 Unicode soon.
Looking forward to it!
HS
"Alchemist" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

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Will Tiburon include the .NET stuff in Rad Studio 2007? or will you need
to keep Rad Studio 2007 around for .NET and Tiburon around for Unicode,
et al.

Alexandre Machado

Delphi Developer

2008-07-25 02:33:22 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Rick Carter writes:

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We really need to see that long-promised Delphi for .NET Roadmap, or
at least get some clarification!
Yes indeed! I have always thought that Tiburón would include a .NET

personality. For me this is a complete surprise.
I'm using BDS 2006 for some WebServices and ASP.NET development, waiting
*impatient* for a new .NET product...
This lack of news about .NET roadmap is getting harder to understand.
Best Regards

Brion L. Webster

Delphi Developer

2008-07-25 04:50:18 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Chua Chee Wee writes:

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:04:35 -0700, "Gil" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

>That is BDS 2006 4 personalities

5 personalities actually. You forgot VB.NET! :o)
VB.NET never supported GUI designer tools. If that were the case, the

2007 Studio product could still be claimed to be a 5 personality product,
supporting C# and VB.NET. The compilers are still there, after all.
Chewy. Sheesh. ;-)
--
-Brion
There's no such thing as 'one, true way;'
- Mercedes Lackey

Bruce McGee

Delphi Developer

2008-07-25 12:43:02 PM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) writes:

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Yes -- RAD Studio SA will get both.
Score!

sorry, carry on...
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Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software

Mark Tiede

Delphi Developer

2008-07-25 10:06:58 PM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Ditto.
"Alexandre Machado" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
message news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...

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Yes indeed! I have always thought that Tiburón would include a .NET
personality. For me this is a complete surprise.
I'm using BDS 2006 for some WebServices and ASP.NET development, waiting
*impatient* for a new .NET product...
This lack of news about .NET roadmap is getting harder to understand.

Best Regards

Rick Carter

Delphi Developer

2008-07-26 03:32:40 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

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Alexandre Machado writes:
>This lack of news about .NET roadmap is getting harder to understand.
Nick Hodges writes:
THere are a lot of moving parts that have to stop moving before we can
talk publicly about our plans. Believe me that we want to talk about
it as much or more than you want us to.
Nick, I know you're working hard to say as much as you're allowed to say,

but CodeGear needs to realize how this looks to the customer.
First, there is no advance warning that C#Builder and the Winforms designer
are to be dropped from RAD Studio 2007. They're just not there.
Next, we find out there is to be no new .NET version during the same time
frame as Delphi 2009. We're assured that there will be a new version some
time, and Michael Swindell talks in vague terms about how good it is going
to be when it comes.
Still, there's no clear word on what will be in the new .NET version, or
when it will come.
I can not help but recall Danny's posts and blogs in the post-Kylix 3 days
where he talked about what Borland was ready to do with the next version
of Kylix, as soon as the funding was released.
Sorry, but I have to ask:
Is Delphi for .NET the next thing to be "Kylixed?"
Rick Carter
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
--- posted by geoForum on delphi.newswhat.com

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero)

Delphi Developer

2008-07-26 04:56:45 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Rick Carter writes:

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Nick, I know you're working hard to say as much as you're allowed to
say, but CodeGear needs to realize how this looks to the customer.
Believe me, I am well aware of how it looks.

--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero
blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges

Markus.Humm

Delphi Developer

2008-07-26 09:35:57 PM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) schrieb:

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Rick Carter writes:

>Nick, I know you're working hard to say as much as you're allowed to
>say, but CodeGear needs to realize how this looks to the customer.

Believe me, I am well aware of how it looks.

Hm, if we knew who's really responsible for this, we could bother this

person rather than you... ;-)
Greetings
Markus

Alexandre Machado

Delphi Developer

2008-07-27 01:40:13 AM

Re: Tiburon w/RAD Studio 2009?

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) writes:

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Believe me, I am well aware of how it looks.
I'm not sure that CG folks are really aware, Nick.

This *mistery* envolving everything related to new Delphi versions
doesn't make any good to *your* customers, nor to *your* product. Each
day without a *clear* path for Delphi - including .NET - is a day we get
closer to develop new products using Visual Studio, believe me.
When Delphi 1 - the VB(Visual Basic) Killer - was about to be relased, ok... I could
understand all that mistery. But what are you trying to hide nowadays?
Hide from whom?
Regards