Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

Gordos Colos

Delphi Developer

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

2007-12-04 07:39:08 PM
delphi142
I.P. Nichols writes:

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Do people who stare at a great work of art ask themselves, "I wonder
what great company supplied the tubes of pigment used to create this
marvelous panting?" ;-)
Yes, I get your point. But try to imagine an intensive ad campaign

(possibly addressed to managers, software developers, etc) saying:
Delphi. Helped to build Skype.
My point is that many, many of people from the software development
business never heard of Delphi, yet many of them heard about Skype.
GC.

I.P. Nichols

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 07:57:50 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"Gordos Colos" writes:

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Yet only a handful of people know what this program was built with.
Could any part of the huge Skype hype be used to promote Delphi and
CG's products?
Does anyone except us Delphiites care?

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Just wondering...
Do people who stare at a great work of art ask themselves, "I wonder what

great company supplied the tubes of pigment used to create this marvelous
panting?" ;-)

A Nielsen

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 08:48:38 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

Gordos Colos writes:

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Yes, I get your point. But try to imagine an intensive ad campaign
(possibly addressed to managers, software developers, etc) saying:

Delphi. Helped to build Skype.
I wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype.

I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for Linux.
Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.

Piotr Szturmaj

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 08:52:27 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

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I wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype.

I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for Linux.
Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.
Skype for Linux is a C++ port.

Gordos Colos

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 09:51:19 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

A Nielsen writes:

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I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for
Linux. Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.
Have you seen the versions for Linux and Mac? they are both far behind

the Windows version (last time I checked there was even no video
support) which simply means that it is much easier to create the version
for Windows since there's Delphi.
GC

Farshad

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 10:02:32 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"A Nielsen"

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I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for Linux.
Kylix?!?%&@?! <g>

And there is also a version of Skype for Mobile.
What I understand is that Delphi is used for former versions of Skype.

Uffe Kousgaard

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 10:09:10 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"Farshad" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

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What I understand is that Delphi is used for former versions of Skype.
The up-to-date exe on my disk is definitely made with delphi. 22 MB exe

file.

Farshad

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 10:16:28 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"Uffe Kousgaard" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>

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The up-to-date exe on my disk is definitely made with delphi. 22 MB exe
file.
Nice to hear that ...

Marius

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 10:38:14 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

A Nielsen writes:

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Gordos Colos writes:
>Yes, I get your point. But try to imagine an intensive ad campaign
>(possibly addressed to managers, software developers, etc) saying:
>
>Delphi. Helped to build Skype.

I wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype.

I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for Linux.
Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.
Linux, then i hoped they have stayed away from delphi :P

David Erbas-White

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 11:38:28 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

WillR writes:

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Apparently so...

Many potential clients tell me that they want to use a "development
standard" which just happens to be Microsoft C++ or whatever...

--
willR
I was asked recently by a fellow who is an embedded programmer what

language should be used to make a 'quick and dirty' GUI interface for
his product. I recommended Delphi and/or C++ Builder (because of the
'quick/dirty' aspect of his project). I was met with great resistance...
David Erbas-White

Robert Giesecke

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 11:43:42 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

Gordos Colos writes:

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Have you seen the versions for Linux and Mac? they are both far behind
the Windows version (last time I checked there was even no video
support) which simply means that it is much easier to create the version
for Windows since there's Delphi.

Or they wasted a lot of time with a Windows-only tool and have to reinvent everything for the other

platforms.
The guy who made Skype learned from this mistake: Joost is purely X-Platform (based on XUL
runner/Mozilla).

somebody

Delphi Developer

2007-12-04 11:45:58 PM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"Gordos Colos" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote

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>I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for
>Linux. Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.
Have you seen the versions for Linux and Mac? they are both far behind
the Windows version (last time I checked there was even no video
support) which simply means that it is much easier to create the version
for Windows since there's Delphi.
Or could say it is much easier to create a Windows version because of MS

(it's not Delphi that provides the multimedia stuff). Either way, that would
be wrong. I am sure there are many programs running on Linux that were
written in C++ that work with video. it is more likely a priority thing.
In any case, it is not a point in Delphi's favour, for a manager will be
quick to point out that had they chosen a cross-platform SDK instead of
Delphi to begin with, their Linux version would always be up to date, and
cost less to develop.
It makes absolutely zero sense to claim or imply Delphi has had anything
remotely to do with Skype's success.

Charles B

Delphi Developer

2007-12-05 12:29:00 AM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

"somebody" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

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"Gordos Colos" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote

>>I also wonder what version of Delphi is used to build Skype for
>>Linux. Maybe it would be not so good publicity after all.

>Have you seen the versions for Linux and Mac? they are both far behind
>the Windows version (last time I checked there was even no video
>support) which simply means that it is much easier to create the version
>for Windows since there's Delphi.

Or could say it is much easier to create a Windows version because of MS
(it's not Delphi that provides the multimedia stuff). Either way, that
would
be wrong. I am sure there are many programs running on Linux that were
written in C++ that work with video. it is more likely a priority thing.

In any case, it is not a point in Delphi's favour, for a manager will be
quick to point out that had they chosen a cross-platform SDK instead of
Delphi to begin with, their Linux version would always be up to date, and
cost less to develop.

It makes absolutely zero sense to claim or imply Delphi has had anything
remotely to do with Skype's success.
I have to agree with you, choosing Delphi for Skype was a mistake as a mass

market comms program surely requires a cross platform tool.
However, Qt, Java, etc often looks like sh*t, so maybe they just wanted a
decent Windows client as that is what most people will use.
Fortunately its not an issue for me as 99.9% of my customers are happy with
Windows.
CB

David Dean [CodeGear]

Delphi Developer

2007-12-05 03:11:15 AM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

In article <47554a6c$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>,
"Gordos Colos" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

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Yes, I get your point. But try to imagine an intensive ad campaign
(possibly addressed to managers, software developers, etc) saying:

Delphi. Helped to build Skype.
There was an ad campaign a couple of years ago along the lines of:

"We don't make the products you love, we make the products you love
better."
Anyone remember who it was?
--
David Dean (CodeGear)
Lead C++ QA Engineer

Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer

2007-12-05 03:39:51 AM

Re: Yesterday 10 million people used one application written in Delphi.

It was BASF
www.basf.com/corporate/index.html
Apparently the slogan has been shortened to "Helping make products better"
"David Dean [CodeGear]" wrote

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Anyone remember who it was?