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Re: Recommendation for Antivirus


2007-09-12 11:49:44 AM
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Q Correll writes:
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WillR,

| -- The rankings by Consumer Reports --

Have always been suspect to me. Whenever I have had detailed knowledge
and experience with products they tested I could not, for the life of
me, understand how they arrived at the ratings they gave things. I
found that often if I inverted their rankings I felt them to be more
accurate. <g>

Maybe you are from Australia? :-) That could explain the inversion...
As I stated -- if you read that far... I felt their methodology was as
good as other testers -- or at least no worst in this case. Plus -- I
only quoted a small portion of the article. They also ranked
anti-spyware programs, suites etc...
Plus the rankings seem to be borne out by the comments made here. As for
personal experience -- after I set my skepticism aside I figure that
their results are as valid as other tests I have seen, and having used
many of the programs -- plus a few others -- the results seem comparable
to my experience. ...And they don't take advertising bucks from the
manufacturers/developers as do the computer mags.
It would be interesting if someone could point us to a article as
comprehensive as this one that produced conflicting results.
Each to their own.
$.02 please
--
Will R
PMC Consulting
 
 

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Q Correll writes:
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And it is almost impossible to get Norton OFF of a system once
installed!!!
I have that feeling about McAffee. Practically nothing short of napalm
would get that out of my pre-installed Dell.
--
Robin.
Australian Bridal Accessories := www.bridalbuzz.com.au
 

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Hannes,
| Here they are now :)
Thanks, but I am not the least bit interested. I will never, ever, buy or
use another Symantec product. PERIOD!!!
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Q
09/11/2007 22:01:45
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Robin,
| I have that feeling about McAffee. Practically nothing short of
| napalm would get that out of my pre-installed Dell.
Bummer! I also put any and all McAfee products on my NEVER USE list!
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Q
09/11/2007 22:02:48
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WillR,
| Maybe you are from Australia? :-) That could explain the inversion...
<chuckle>Nope. Prairie kid from Colorado.
| Each to their own.
I just have a personal bad taste re: Consumer Reports and couldn't pass
up the opportunity to put in a jab. <g>
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Q
09/11/2007 22:04:10
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"Q Correll" writes <news:46e772e1$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>:
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Thanks, but I am not the least bit interested. I will never, ever, buy or
use another Symantec product. PERIOD!!!
Add me to this list, too. Symantec software is just {*word*99}, slows down your
system and hitchhikes your OS the way you never believe. A complete
uninstall is nearly impossible.
I'm using GData Antivirus and I am quite happy for more than three years
now.
I used McAfee and Norton before, but both are by far the worst examples -
I don't speak of virus or trojan detection but of slowing down your system.
--
cu,
Michael
 

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For Anti Virus -- they recommended Trend Micro (PC-illin), and
Checkpoint Zone Alarm, and Microsoft Windows Live (OneCare).
Except for Trend, I suspect the others got in the list thanks to heavy
subsidization. Zone Alarm is a bag of troubles, and OneCare is more
fluff than substance IME.
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Many computer stores swear by Panda as being the most effective for
emergency computer repair of virus problems. fwiw
Feedback we have from customers using Panda is that it is a bit prone to
paranoia and regularly ends up blocking production software that has
been running for years (they usually fix it in the next AV update, but
false positives keep coming back at least once a year for a few days/weeks).
Eric
 

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After examining Kaspersky's website, they look pretty good too. Their
"business space" product page doesn't mention Malware .. does anyone know if
they protect against spyware and such or only antivirus. The home page
mentions malware but I learned a long time ago not to assume ..
Del
 

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"Eric Grange" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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AVG

Question,
Can I just run AVG to check my C: Drive and then turn it off.
I'd rather not have AV program running all the time. I only do email over
the web. I am the only person who has access to my machines and I don't have
viruses.
So is it doable to just run AVG once a day and be done with it?
-d
 

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Eric Grange a écrit :
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AVG

But you just named the absolute worst of the "antiviruses" out there
with Norton and McAfee, so anything else should be an upgrade.

Norton especially qualifies more as a "virus nest" IME, I have seen more
than one machine "protected" by an up-to-date Norton, that would be
revealed as a host to hundreds of species of viruses and worms once you
ran an AVG scan on it...

Eric
4 days ago my boss called me.
The mouse was moving alone, going to start menu, then run then automatically
typed "ftp dds.qdjkhqs dkqjhsd" then a pre-defined sequence of script.
And I swear I don't lie : MacAfee was installed and we saw a message popping
up then disappear : "Mc Afee update successfully done".
I've downloaded what I consider to be the best, not the quickest but the
safest AV I know : Kaspersky. Upon installation on my boss computer he
screamed "WARNING A VIRUS IS INSTALLED YOU SHOULD IMMEDIATELY [snip]" ...
Do I need to say more ?
 

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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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No, I don't think that is the only way AV software could operate.
Would you mind to elaborate on that, particularly for real-time
scanning? I am curious.
More specifically, I am curious as to what you think a better method
would be.
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Pax,
Anthony Frazier
Victor Printing, Inc.
 

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Dennis Landi writes:
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So is it doable to just run AVG once a day and be done with it?
For your uses, absolutely. You would also want to do an on-demand scan
of things you download or discs you receive, even if they're from
"good" sources. There's countless examples of viruses slipping into
public downloads, getting burned onto CDs, etc.
A good download manager could handle the "download" part, so you'd only
ever have to remember to scan media that is given to you.
--
Pax,
Anthony Frazier
Victor Printing, Inc.
 

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"Anthony Frazier" <afrazier AT victorptg DOT com>writes
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Dennis Landi writes:

>So is it doable to just run AVG once a day and be done with it?

For your uses, absolutely. You would also want to do an on-demand scan
of things you download or discs you receive, even if they're from
"good" sources. There's countless examples of viruses slipping into
public downloads, getting burned onto CDs, etc.

A good download manager could handle the "download" part, so you'd only
ever have to remember to scan media that is given to you.

What I wanted to hear. Thanks.
-d
 

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Q Correll writes:
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I just have a personal bad taste re: Consumer Reports and couldn't
pass up the opportunity to put in a jab. <g>
In this case, empirical evidence seems to back up the ratings presented
there. I am also happy with AVG and have personally witnessed several systems
get completely hosed by Norton Virus, not to mention the *noticeable*
performance degradation at the best of times.
--
Wayne Niddery - Winwright, Inc (www.winwright.ca)
"At the apex of every great tragedy of mankind there stands the figure
of an incorruptible altruist." - Ayn Rand
 

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Dennis Landi writes:
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"Anthony Frazier" <afrazier AT victorptg DOT com>writes
news:46e7fede$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
>Dennis Landi writes:
>
>>So is it doable to just run AVG once a day and be done with it?
>For your uses, absolutely. You would also want to do an on-demand scan
>of things you download or discs you receive, even if they're from
>"good" sources. There's countless examples of viruses slipping into
>public downloads, getting burned onto CDs, etc.
>
>A good download manager could handle the "download" part, so you'd only
>ever have to remember to scan media that is given to you.
>

What I wanted to hear. Thanks.

-d


Hang on now!
The famous Microsoft bug where you only had to be visible on the web to
be "attackable"??? can not remember the bug name -- LSAS ??? -- Port 443?
or something like that? I know I have the port blocked on our router,
but you did not mention firewalls on the router or anything like that --
I am not sure that was good advice!!!
It used to be that you had to do something to "attract" a virus, a
Trojan or malware.
I do not believe that these are safe assumptions -- not any more!!!
For example -- DNS poisoning may affect your provider -- then you get
pointed at counterfeit sites because a DNS cache has been corrupted. If
you do not have software protecting your browser you may then end up
with a drive by attack!
I suggest you re-think your options! I believe that at least some level
of Virus and Malware protection -- not to mention email scanning is a
requirement these days.
--
Will R
PMC Consulting