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2007-12-15 01:44:18 AM
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"Eric Grange" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
are other obvious examples of this happening?
Cheers,
Van
 

Eddie Shipman writes:
Delphi so I don't have to look at any more C code. :)
Woody (TMW)
 

"Eddie Shipman" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
Headline:
Microsoft sued for bundling Vista OS with IE7. Opera CEO thinks Vista is an
unfair advantage.
Says Neelie Kroes, "AFAIK, IE7 costs twice as much in the EU as in the
United States. Clearly we are not fining them enough."
Says Bill, "there is no way we separate the OS out of IE. it is just not
possible."
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"Ian" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
with Vista. Worst piece of junk I have used in a long time.
Van
 

Tom Corey writes:
David Erbas-White
 

"Eddie Shipman" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
end result would be achieved. And the reason that doesn't happen is all the
antitrust stuff going on. Let MS have its way, and we will have one OS, one
browser, ...etc.
 

somebody writes:
here are just four reasons why not.
(1) MS does not publish their standards and APIs. Since they are
proprietary, they do not have to, and they don't. Look at NET as an
example. How many non MS alternatives support NET 3.5? Answer:=0
(2) All innovation would depend upon Microsoft and Microsoft only. No
one else could invent or create anything that did not comply with MS
Standards. Do you really want everyone subservient to a single vendor?
(3) Microsoft would be in the position to control every aspect of
development. Would you want that? All other companies would have to be
totally dependent upon MS' charity. As we have all witnessed in the
past, MS is not very charitable.
(4) Open standards, which implies no one corporation or group is in
control, gives everyone a level playing ground and invites everyone to
innovate and invent. If standards are open and everyone tries to adhere
to these standards, or submits new ones for adoption, the entire IT
world is better served. Most vendors support open standards or at least
try to as a marketing tool. Only MS refuses to adhere to any open
standards. They may adopt them to start with, but then change them to
make them a proprietary MS only standard and then will not submit them
back to the community. That is why it is such a PITA, to develop for MS
based applications, especially Web based solutions.
 

somebody writes:
Because it is a non-proprietary, openly available, well discussed and
properly documented standard, and not a proprietary standard which
contains many undocumented quirks and/or non-standard features. If all
browsers adhered to the same standards, it would be much easier to
write web pages for them.
Currently, you write standard code, which works in most browsers, and
then have to work around the many quirks in IE6 or IE7 or IE for the
Mac, etc. to get the same result. That is a terrible nuisance, and a
lot of extra work.
--
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] www.teamb.com
"Everywhere I go I am asked if I think the university stifles
writers. My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."
-- Flannery O'Connor (1925-1964)
 

Eric Grange writes:
FF + Google for instance. Insta lock-in + spyware + adware..
All browsers have their peculiarities, none of them adhere to the all
the standards, all have slightly different ways of interpreting them
and all require browser specific tweaks to your website.
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