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2005-08-26 03:37:03 PM
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"John Kaster (Borland)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
He was a manager.
He has no engineering or technical training.
That is why his engineers are so dorkish.
They are what a manager thinks engineers are like.
His undergrad degree was in economics and he did a MBA at Berkeley.
"He worked closely with telecommunications engineers at Crocker National Bank and
at Pacific Bell and draws on their personalities for those of his Dilbert characters."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Adams
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
then?
There are many management levels in a company the size of PB so I suspect
that each level thinks the one above them is like the PHB.
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an engineer at one of the telecom companies for a few years.
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"John Jacobson aka Captain Jake" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
He was in a sale/marketing management position with Pacific Bell.
He was never an engineer.
How can a bloke with no engineering degree be an engineer ?
His degrees are in economics ( a batchelors ) and in
management ( a MBA from Berkley )
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
digital phone lines and also running the company's BBS. My business
card said "engineer" but I am not an engineer by training.</quote>
www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/news_and_history/html/about_scott_
adams.html
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"Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM [a.k.a. acm.org]>writes:
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
strip is funny.
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
While there is a certain elitism among those who have formal education
as engineers, some remarkable things have been engineered by people
without those credentials.
 

"Eric Schreiber" <eric at kobayashi dot com>writes
but [have] had no formal training in it.
As to engineering, an example of an exceptional individual who was
self-taught was John Muir (he won many awards at the state fair in Madison
for his inventions).
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
I'm an economist, not a software developer. Funny that I make all my money
from software development then, eh?
 

<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
engineer, I'd guess. He did the same type of thing for a while that an
engineer would do, which is good enough for understanding the kinds of
things that one sees in the Dilbert comic strip. that is all he needs. It
doesn't really matter if he had a degree in engineering or not. We aren't
auditioning him for an engineering job afterall.
Engineer positions quite successfully.
Degrees are simply training, they don't make you into what you are training
for. Only experience can do that.
(Some of the worst code I have ever seen was created by someone who had
graduated magna{*word*20}laude with a degree in computer science from a quite
good university.)
 

Captain Jake writes:
only exposure, hopefully some will stay in your brain. When you work,
suddenly you have an 'aha' moment, that you knew that you have ever
seen this problem and solution before.
Because of that, I think people who went to college and be successful
are the motivated ones. They actually can use what they had learned.
Another good thing about education, you know people with the same
passion with you and have a network with them.
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
developer, as I do not hold a Computer Science (or equivalent) degree.
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:18:41 +1200, "David Clegg" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes:
some places, use of the title is even legislated:
home.flash.net/~dlsasce/legregup3.htm
-ckd
 

"ckd" wrote
have or need an engineering degree. ;-)
Most states have regulations that proscribe the qualifications of what are
commonly referred to as "Professional Engineers" and these engineers are
authorized to certify that plans and specifications for projects that affect the
public safety meet certain standards. They usually do this by affixing their
state issued certification stamp (seal) and signing off on each significant
drawing or specification for the project and these in turn become part of a
complex chain of certified documentation.
When a general contractor is hired to build say a chemical plant, one of the
provisions of the contract is that the contractor is obligated to supply to the
client a certain number of sets of documentation books which contain all the
certifications in great detail. For example, each pressure vessel is fully
documented not only with all the engineering drawings and details but other
things like for each piece of steel used in fabrication the melt analysis from
the steel mill that produced the metal, the certification for the welders, the
details of heat treatment and ultimately the pressure testing which results in
a metal plaque which is permanently attached to the vessel. It is jokingly said
that when the weight of paper exceeds the weight of all equipment the
contractor's job is finished. For a nuclear power plant the amount of
certification and documentation goes up by roughly an order of magnitude over
say a coal fired power plant.