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Re: Prediction


2003-12-09 10:27:41 AM
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>Where do they (orthodox economists) use _non_ linear equations? <g>

Do you consider dynamic equilibria problems to be orthodox economics?
I'm not sure. Depends on the particular literature I guess. What did you
have in mind?
But generally no, I guess I'd consider the neoclassical orthodoxy to be
almost defined by a commitment to or focus on equilibrium economics, and
various heterodox approaches (eg Austrian economics) clearly demarcated by
their opposition to it. Eg the Austrians seem to consider that economies are
_usually_ in disequilibria and _moving toward_ (always tending toward, but
rarely or never reaching) equilibrium, so disequilibrium analysis is the
most important analysis, whereas neoclassical analysis seems to me to be
primarily focused on equilibrium analysis which is a special case which
rarely, or never, happens.
It's all a matter of definition though, I guess. Any two people could define
'orthodox' economics differently.
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What
about time series analyses?
Like?
Cheers,
Lauchlan M
 
 

Re: Prediction

Luigi D. Sandon writes:
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If Borland wants to expand its user base it has to act now,
I think that is exactly what they're doing by giving the server away
with user licenses (the server used to be an additional $10000 charge
or so) and giving user licenses away for free with IDE products.
-Craig
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Re: Prediction

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Could be. I read it differently. At any rate, neither the
current version of Delphi nor the current version of VS have
refactoring support. The next major version of VS will. The
next major version of Delphi...?

-Craig
Actually, with Castalia 2... oh, that'd be thirdpartytools now, I
suppose... <g>
-Brion
 

Re: Prediction

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StarTeam works *very* well with VSS. Although migration is, in fact,
I know. I was using StarTeam a couple of years before Borland acquired it.
What I mean was different. Delphi shops are using *many* different SCM
tools, i.e. VSS, CVS, Perforce, TeamCoeherence, FreeVCS and others, because
there were not an obvious choice. It is not easy to migrate from some of
them to StarTeam. I think within MS VS users a lot of uses VSS, especially
small and mid-sized companies, maybe the larger ones are using much powerful
tools (StarTeam or ClearCase).
If Borland wants to expand its user base it has to act *now*, because
whenever MS rolls out a powerful VSS version many VS users will follow that
path, and if VS is going to become the ubiquitous Windows development IDE MS
has another advantage over Borland ALM solution.
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Luigi D. Sandon
 

Re: Prediction

Luigi D. Sandon writes:
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whenever MS rolls out a powerful VSS version many VS users will follow that
Powerful VSS version ? ROTFMAO ! Are you serious ? Have you ever used
VSS ? The only term that can be used to refer to VSS is easy-to-use.
Everything else about it is {*word*99}.
David
 

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But they can get this as long as somebody somewhere is producing good
tools
for their operating systems and office suites. I wouldn't be surprised if
MSFT eventually outsources their entire programming tools division.
They would have to outsource too many informations about new features in
their products that way. I do not believe they are ready for it.
To license Together, Caliber and StarTeam and bundle them with VS is much
easier...
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Powerful VSS version ? ROTFMAO ! Are you serious ? Have you ever used
VSS ? The only term that can be used to refer to VSS is easy-to-use.
I have used it for five years daily, we were a mixed MS/Borland shop and for
some time VSS was good enough and it came with VS licenses. Later we were
looking for a more powerful tool, and found StarTeam, but its price didn't
allow us to switch enterily (it was before Borland bought it, and lowered
the price somehow).
MS knows that VSS is no longer good enough, and I guess they are working on
a new version - there are some hints in the Whidbey web pages. How many new
features are planned I do not know, but they are working on a file system
derived from SQL Server and I think they can use some database technology
for the purpose. When MS tell us more maybe we will know if they are going
to play in the SCM arena with Borland and IBM, or if it will be another
low-end tool for small shops.
This Friday I will talk about SCM tools in a Delphi users meeting here in
Italy, I will have a broader view on what Delphi developers are using now
and what are they plans for the future.
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Luigi D. Sandon
 

Re: Prediction

Luigi D. Sandon writes:
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MS knows that VSS is no longer good enough, and I guess they are working on
a new version - there are some hints in the Whidbey web pages. How many new
Please, point me to those pages. I have been waiting a long time for the
great MS with their infinite cash flow, to produce a successor to VSS. I
have found no hint of such a product. Yes, VSS is getting new versions,
but those features are just small things (like compatibility with newest
Visual Studio).
With new VSS, I mean that they would throw away *all* of the current VSS
code and start fresh. that is the only way to do it. They can not build
anything useful with the current architecture.
David
 

Re: Prediction

Luigi D. Sandon writes:
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I have used it for five years daily, we were a mixed MS/Borland shop
and for some time VSS was good enough and it came with VS licenses.
Later we were looking for a more powerful tool, and found StarTeam,
but its price didn't allow us to switch enterily (it was before
Borland bought it, and lowered the price somehow).
We were in the same boat. We were interested in StarTeam, but before
Borland bought StarBase Corp. we couldn't afford it. Today the cost
for us to switch to StarTeam is something like 1/4 of what it was three
years ago, so we're finally changing over. Same thing for CaliberRM --
eliminating the server license + the BorCon discount made this a
reality for us, and I will be very happy to never use RequisitePro
again.
The fact that the tools are so much better is reason enough to switch,
but if Borland really delivers on the integrations they're promising
it's going to be amazing.
-Craig
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Re: Prediction

Luigi D. Sandon writes:
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>Please, point me to those pages. I have been waiting a long time
>for the

msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx
Here's what I see about changes to VSS from this link:
"In Whidbey, Microsoft will improve upon the Visual SourceSafe tools
and offer programmers working in teams the technology they need to
manage source code as well as other files in their solutions. Visual
SourceSafe will be extended to offer support for Web service and
Unicode projects, helping programmers more effectively meet the
challenges of today's business. Further, Visual SourceSafe will better
support team development with remote access, both by making common
operations faster and asynchronous, and by enabling access through
firewalls. Hence, developers will enjoy improved performance and
tighter integration between Visual SourceSafe and the Visual Studio
IDE."
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a rewrite, or a feature set
that even approaches StarTeam. To me this looks like VSS + Unicode +
SourceOffSite + soem additional web features. Perhaps they'll also
work on VSS's tendency to eat its own archives, but they don't mention
that.
-Craig
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Please, point me to those pages. I have been waiting a long time for the
msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx
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With new VSS, I mean that they would throw away *all* of the current VSS
code and start fresh. that is the only way to do it. They can not build
anything useful with the current architecture.
I hope so! :-)
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Luigi D. Sandon
 

Re: Prediction

Nick Hodges (TeamB) writes:
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:14:40 +0200, David Smith <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes:

>- It corrupts files.

<!!!>
Yeah, well, it is something you can learn to live with. :\ If you do
a fixup regularly and back it up, it is usable. Trouble starts when you
don't maintain it.
I know, I know: This is completely unforgiveable in a VCS, and that's
part of the reason we're switching. But apparently we're not the only
people who have learned to work around the problem.
-Craig
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Re: Prediction

David Smith writes:
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So we need a new system. As you seem to know StarTeam, Craig, can you
tell me how are things with it ?
It's the best SCM tool I have ever used. I have wanted to use it here
since long before Borland acquired the company, but we couldn't afford
it until Borland slashed the price.
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Does it have a good (or at least) decent branching model ?
Very, very good. Read this:
bdn.borland.com/article/images/31869/StarTeam_Configuration_Best_
Practices.pdf
(or urljr.com/4x)
In particular, section 5.3. you will probably drool if you're used to
VSS, so set a towel down before you click.
-Craig
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Re: Prediction

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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"In Whidbey, Microsoft will improve upon the Visual SourceSafe tools
and offer programmers working in teams the technology they need to
manage source code as well as other files in their solutions. Visual
SourceSafe will be extended to offer support for Web service and
Unicode projects, helping programmers more effectively meet the
challenges of today's business. Further, Visual SourceSafe will better
support team development with remote access, both by making common
operations faster and asynchronous, and by enabling access through
firewalls. Hence, developers will enjoy improved performance and
tighter integration between Visual SourceSafe and the Visual Studio
IDE."

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a rewrite, or a feature set
that even approaches StarTeam. To me this looks like VSS + Unicode +
SourceOffSite + soem additional web features. Perhaps they'll also
work on VSS's tendency to eat its own archives, but they don't mention
that.
Yes, I won't hold my breath. There are at least three things horribly
wrong in VSS for us :
- Slow (we are using it in WAN).
- The branching model is worthless.
- It corrupts files.
After reading the text above, the new version might help with the speed
(although SOS is already helping), but other two things are still remaining.
So we need a new system. As you seem to know StarTeam, Craig, can you
tell me how are things with it ? Does it have a good (or at least)
decent branching model ? Do you know how it works in slow WANs ?
David
 

Re: Prediction

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:14:40 +0200, David Smith <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes:
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- It corrupts files.
<!!!>
Nick Hodges - TeamB
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