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2005-01-12 01:54:12 AM
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Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
you can not do without it anymore. <g>
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Joanna Carter (TeamB) writes:
to have some people who are academically inclined toward language
engineering to be using our IDE.
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Joanna Carter (TeamB) writes:
everything is an object, and how this makes it a very powerful language
with a very nice syntax.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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John Kaster (Borland) writes:
kidding? I should finish the other things on my TODO list first (master
ECO II, try out Unit Testing, learn C++, finish Budget app...)
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On 11 Jan 2005 07:36:57 -0800, "David Farrell-Garcia"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
"Dot net has some very high benefits for the right kind of
application...blah blah blah...", ad naseum.
Just once I would like it if one of these dot net advocates could give me
a single meaningful example as to what they could do WITH dot net,
versus what couldn't be done otherwise without it.
Ever since the year 2000 when dot garbage was announced, I have been
waiting, but nobody has been able to provide me with anything yet.
 

"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
using any physical force.
 

On 11 Jan 2005 07:42:57 -0800, "David Farrell-Garcia"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
my D6. And even then, my D2005 takes half as long to load as D6.
I've already stated earlier that a load time of 60 seconds versus a
load time of 9 seconds isn't going to make or break your day.
The point is simply to illustrate that if you crud up an application
with unnecessary garbage, one of the most notable side effects is the
load time. This is clearly the case with D2005 and dot net installed,
which takes about 6 times as long to load as without it.
For a purely Win32 development environment, this is neither acceptable
nor desirable.
They don't add hundreds of megs to your hard drive scattered across
thousands of individual files.
Cookies aren't installed onto your system under the pretence that
they're "needed".
Furthermore, cookies can be disabled with ease, just as any useless
feature SHOULD be.
 

On 11 Jan 2005 07:48:33 -0800, "David Farrell-Garcia"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
about the time that it takes Borland to release updates.
But your assertion about time and how it relates to a product's size
or company's size isn't really valid, although it is an excuse that
many companies love to use over and over again.
Allow me to illustrate..
Microsoft (love 'em or hate 'em), can put out patches immediately when
needed. They don't make you wait for the next major service pack
release which is often many months away.
Why couldn't Borland do this when a serious bug is discovered? Of
course they could...with ease. But for one reason or another, they
don't...and it most likely has to do with corporate beaurocracy.
Nothing else.
We could just as easily be receiving weekly patches from Borland.
Then when the next major service pack is ready, all of those
previously-released patches would of course be integrated into the
service pack. But for those people who are extremely frustrated by
certain bugs, it would be very comforting to know that they can get
timely support in the here and now, as opposed to "some day".
 

Maxwell Smart writes:
to do it with almost any other tool -- at least that was my estimate.
It sure kicks ass on any other web development tool.
Personally, I will do any of my personal development in .Net going
forward, simply because it is so much easier to develop with.
But you of course can do as you please. I'd ask that you take the
same attitude, though.
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On 11 Jan 2005 08:32:54 -0800, "Nick Hodges [TeamB]"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
 

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:54:12 +0100, "Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
What possible reason could you have for using it 20 or 30 times a day?
 

Maxwell Smart writes:
time. I am more and more dependent on it, and I find myself coding
faster when I am using it. CRTL+SHIFT+V, Enter makes things go really
quickly.
I code with "Extract Method" in mind. Makes for much cleaner code.
As Morpheus said, "Free your mind, Neo".
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Maxwell Smart writes:
work.
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