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2005-10-26 01:41:09 AM
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John Kaster (Borland) writes:
that, then work from there :-)
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"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
They said they were having trouble keeping 30,000 examples current
with each release so they took them all out.
In their place they are putting how-to "procedures"
I see a few possibilities.
A) They won't have enough and people will complain, ala D2005.
B) They'll have a lot and be hard to keep up to date.
I'm not seeing how they have solved anything by throwing everything out
and starting over, besides making a lot more work for themselves than
updating the examples would have been.
C) They will have lots of procedures that are easy to maintain because
they are not specific enough to be useful.
This, of course, solves all their problems.
I'm all for more documentation, and the how-to procedures sound great.
But not at the expense of examples.
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"Brad White" <bwhite at inebraska.com>writes
happy to see improvement over 2005 in any form.
For a "first time user" the help simply wasn't very helpful.
Early on I lobbied for more cross-help to leverage users coming from VB,
then I learned that even the basics weren't working right in 2005 and got
very frustrated. I still think they should put priority on this. The Help
situation is almost a deal breaker all by itself for folks trying to come
from VB. I still offer my help on this, but it appears priorities are on
other things.
Dan
 

Delphi 2005 help for anything... helpful :-)
Delphi 6 help is also better / more
specific when using F1 on something.
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Brad White <"bwhite at inebraska.com">writes
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contained non-trivial examples.
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David Clegg <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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dark in my humor, because I found myself thinking how ironic it would be if
after this very promising start she grows up to be a social worker or
crossing guard.
I also found myself thinking what great marketing potential this has. Borland
can honestly say that ECO is so easy to use that even a kid can use it.
That's a marketing gold nugget if ever there was one. Let's see if they know
what to do with it.
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I personally have Delphi 6 and Delphi 7 (and <sigh>D8). I just never used Delphi
before. I also use DelphiBasics, which is great for a new user.
The problem is Borlands at this point. I am already frustrated and have
worked around some of my own barriers. The problem Borland has is that the
barrier to *other* VB(Visual Basic) users is significant. Heck, it is difficult for all
new users, it is just that it is a real shame they don't leverage the VB(Visual Basic) users
background at all.
The *only* reason I kept at it was that I had a Delphi/TP user in the next
office. There aren't many VB(Visual Basic) shops that have that.
Dan
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"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote
for Delphi 6 and earlier versions is a free download, without requiring
registration or proof of purchase. I would say get the latest version of
the help file for Delphi 6. That should at least help you with the
components and language features that have been there for a while.
Rick Carter
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"John Kaster (Borland)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
think every 12 mo.s or so is plenty.
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"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
OTOH, I don't know how much influence she has. She kept referring to
her boss as the one who set priorities and direction.
I'm afraid I don't remember what she said to do with the suggestions.
Whether
e-mail or QC. I would bet QC. But she did make a plea for specifics. Not just
more of the "We need more" variety.
Perhaps they are getting closer to getting out from under the avalanche of
changes
from the old to the new help system and might now be more receptive to your
offer.
Bringing over more VBer's can only help us all.
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prizes?
Btw... all of you did a great job.
 

Dennis Landi writes:
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John Jacobson aka Captain Jake writes:
Borland! Thanks for pointing that out, Jake!
:P
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Don writes:
correct. that is what we'll be using.
to a great job.
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