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Re: Why I am dissappointed in Codegear


2007-02-26 06:41:24 AM
delphi105
In article <45df16a0$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Michael Swindell
(CodeGear) says...
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They are intended to be entry level editions.
Then why did you call it "Pro" and why did you sell it (see your own
FAQ) as positioned for individual _professionals_?
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When we launched Turbo's we said that it is not an upgrade path for
Delphi Pro users and did not offer upgrade pricing
Yes, but you didn't give this as a reason for not offerng upgrade
pricing. The lack of upgrade pricing was explained as being due to the
Turbo's being a new product line.
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we mentioned several
times that in future versions the featureset would not likely remain on par
with the Pro editions in the future
I don't recall that. I recall that the feature set would not remain on
par with _BDS_ Pro, which makes perfect sense Turbo <>BDS, after all.
But I don't remember hearing that "Turbo Professional won't be for
professionals, in the future".
I'm upset enough as it is - just imagine how upset I'd be if I had
actually bought Turbo Pro based on the way it had been (and continues to
be) sold/advertised/described.
Thank goodness for circumspection.
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Jolyon Smith
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Re: Why I am dissappointed in Codegear

"Michael Swindell (CodeGear)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
message news:45df16a0$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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and we mentioned several times that in future versions the featureset
would not likely remain on par with the Pro editions in the future and
that we'd likely be tuning the featureset in future releases.
Please provide references to such statements. I am only aware of those that
have been made since Delphi 2007 was announced.
 

Re: Why I am dissappointed in Codegear

In article <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Chris Burrows says...
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Please provide references to such statements. I am only aware of those that
have been made since Delphi 2007 was announced.
In their defence, there were such references (in the NGs) at least as
far back as Dec '06
Which makes it even more puzzling that the product name implies, and the
Official Product FAQ _STATES_ that Turbo Professional is for
"professionals". The FAQ actually says "wishing to use the most
powerful and most flexible Windows development tools".
It doesn't say "professionals wishing to use what is currently the most
powerful and flexible tool but whom in future wish to have to purchase
an upgrade to a different product (Studio IS a different product line,
according to CG themselves) in order to continue to use the most
powerful and most flexible tool of which the Turbo edition will be a cut
down, less powerful, less flexible version"
Are there false advertising laws in the US? CodeGear seem VERY
concerned about how the law prevents them from releasing a roadmap, but
would seem at the very least to be quite prepared to play fast and loose
with statements made to customers in their own product marketting
literature.
(Interesting comment in TDH - Nick said how much he wishes they could be
"up front and honest" in their roadmap - but apparently the lawyers are
there presumably to ensure deception and dishonesty? WTF?!?)
We should "listen more to what CodeGear says?"
Hmm, perhaps they should listen to THEMSELVES every once in a while?
lol
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Jolyon Smith
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What a great terminology: "Vista age", "Outdated developer".
It reminds me this: tinyurl.com/1wvi

M$ is the #1 marketing bullshit producer, this is not a news anyway.
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M$ is the #1 marketing bullshit producer, this is not a news anyway.
So you're lining up for #2?