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Captain Jake

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A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons


2006-02-10 11:33:15 PM
delphi281
"John Kaster (Borland)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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You're still missing a key data point. Delphi and the other "devco"
products were also helping fund the ALM product development. This was
said many times publicly by our management, so I am not revealing any
trade secrets here. This has been going on since at least 1997.

If the money earned by the products goes back into those products, a
cash infusion would not necessarily be required to either maintain or
improve the status quo.
As long as that revenue stays the same or grows, I guess that would be true.
However, the uncertainty created by the current situation almost certainly
reduces the amount of future revenue that can be expected in the short run,
if not the long run. The big question is whether or not his drop is bigger
than the amount that has been draining off to ALM.
There is something here that makes no sense to me, and that is that if DevCo
(for lack of a better term) really was a cash cow for ALM, why would Borland
eject it? The only way that whole thing makes sense is if DevCo broke away
from Borland, not vice versa. As if the DevCo people got together and went
to the management saying, "Look, we are tired of your mismanagement and we
are going to break away. This can either be an amicable split that leaves
you looking like you were in control, or it can be a {*word*193} mass
mutiny/defection. You choose."
 
 
Joe Hendricks

Delphi Developer

2006-02-11 12:16:06 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

Captain Jake writes:
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There is something here that makes no
sense to me, and that is that if DevCo
(for lack of a better term) really was
a cash cow for ALM, why would Borland
eject it?
From Coates' statements, it would seem strategic focus became
more an issue than ALM funding perhaps ? Maybe ALM is now making
enough to allow such focus financially ?
JoeH
 
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2006-02-11 01:57:00 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

Captain Jake writes:
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be true. However, the uncertainty created by the current situation
almost certainly reduces the amount of future revenue that can be
expected in the short run,
Certainly.
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if not the long run.
No one can say about the long run. DevCo certainly has plans that would
generate more revenue, but it depends on what happens when it is sold
off.
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There is something here that makes no sense to me, and that is that
if DevCo (for lack of a better term) really was a cash cow for ALM,
why would Borland eject it?
They want higher profit margins, evidently. Less product development
expenses.
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The only way that whole thing makes sense
is if DevCo broke away from Borland, not vice versa.
That's what's happening anyway, isn't it?
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tired of your mismanagement and we are going to break away. This can
either be an amicable split that leaves you looking like you were in
control, or it can be a {*word*193} mass mutiny/defection. You choose."
And what power, exactly, would the employees weild, other than mass
exodus or sick outs, or strikes?
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Kostya

Delphi Developer

2006-02-11 09:59:07 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

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And what power, exactly, would the employees weild, other than mass
exodus or sick outs, or strikes?
Would not that be more then enough?
Kostya
 
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2006-02-12 02:27:09 PM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

Kostya writes:
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Would not that be more then enough?
It would hurt the products if we all stopped working on them.
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John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2006-02-13 02:33:04 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

Kostya writes:
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Not in a short term. Nobody's outside of Borland
going to die if you stopped working for some
time.
As someone on the inside who works on the team, I will lend more credence
to my opinion ;)
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Kostya

Delphi Developer

2006-02-13 03:31:23 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

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It would hurt the products if we all stopped working on them.
Not in a short term. Nobody's outside of Borland
going to die if you stopped working for some
time. Treating Delhi like current Borland does
hurting it much more I think
Kostya
 
Danijel Tkalcec [RTC]

Delphi Developer

2006-02-13 04:33:37 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

"John Kaster (Borland)" writes:
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Kostya writes:
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 >Not in a short term. Nobody's outside of Borland
 >going to die if you stopped working for some
 >time.
As someone on the inside who works on the team, I will lend more credence
to my opinion ;)
ROTFL! :o)
I think you're doing a great job, if I may say so.
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Danijel Tkalcec - Team RTC
www.realthinclient.org
 
John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2006-02-13 11:20:12 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

Danijel Tkalcec [RTC] writes:
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I think you're doing a great job, if I may say so
Thanks much. We've got lots more coming ...
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John Kaster (Borland)

Delphi Developer

2006-02-14 12:32:35 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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I hope so. But don't forget the fate of Turbopower.
That's not really a valid comparison.
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alf.christophersen

Delphi Developer

2006-02-14 06:11:09 AM

Re:A little {*word*97} theory to leaven the bread, was Re: Beyond Here There Be Dragons

"John Kaster (Borland)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:

>I hope so. But don't forget the fate of Turbopower.
That's not really a valid comparison.
Well, remains to be seen.