Borland released this package that seems to be marvelous thing, and although
they let it for free (the $10 fee approve it) its un available for download and
borland doesn't willing to ship it to destinations outside the USA.
I would be more then grateful if anyone can mail me this stuff.

Can't borland just put this on there web site for all of us?

Steve.

It's available later this month from Borland UK for 10 pounds.

John.

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* In a message originally to "john atkins"

Hi all,

* In a msg originally to All, "john atkins" said:

"a > It's available later this month from Borland UK for 10
"a > pounds.

This isn't meant as a dig at Borland in particular but how come once again a
 price in US dollars gets converted directly into UK Pounds with no reference
 to the current exchange rate?

It seems mighty peculiar that even when the exchange rate was $2.55 to one UK
 pound (admittedly almost 20 years ago now) books and so forth originating in
 the United States merely had and still do have the $ sign changed into a
pound
 sign.  I'm no mathematical genius but somehow that just doesn't compute.

Does this pricing strategy also work the other way too, i.e can I go across to
 America and buy a Rolls-Royce for the same "digit" price I'd pay for one over
 here?

All answers to be written on the back of a postage stamp and sent to the
 following address:-

      The Right Honourable John Major MP
      10, Downing Street,
      London.

Or alternatively in here where I can read them.

{$Ranting mode off}

Keith.

keith.ander...@astrot.dircon.co.uk

...Turnkey function jumpblock firmware restriction

In article <575a0aba575a0...@astrot.dircon.co.uk>,

A case in point: the Delphi (1.0) beta sold out quickly in the states but copies
were left unsold in the UK. Guess what the pricing was! I complained at the time
and got lots of bull but noone actually explained why it should cost *50%* more
(several hundred dollars worth).

Of course, since then Borland have sold thousands of copies and haven't made a
loss...

And they say I'm cynical.

--
Bob Cousins, Sirius {*word*104}netics Ltd.

Keith Anderson wrote in a message to All:

"a > It's available later this month from Borland UK for 10
"a > pounds.

KA> This isn't meant as a dig at Borland in particular but how come once
KA> again a  price in US dollars gets converted directly into UK Pounds
KA> with no reference  to the current exchange rate?

The same thing happens when it comes to Sweden, the $10 price will be
translated into something like 150SEK, which is $20-$25 :(( The people doing
this should either be sent to a math course or to hell :))

Best regards,
   Christian // ctib...@silver.ct.se

.. My God .... it's full of stars!

When and where will Internet Solution pack be available in Sweden?
I'm interested, even if it's 150SEK :))

Med v?nlig h?lsning

Johnny A
johnny.ah...@abc.se

Todd Mountjoy [tm21...@Ltec.Net]
Technology Librarian
York College
York NE 68467

By the same logic are the prices in the Far East 1000% higher than some
of the countries here in Europe,as their piracy problem is huge?

U-N

Euan Garden
Valstar Systems Ltd

e...@valstar.co.uk

!!These opions are purely mine and not that of my employer!!

In article <4q6jdu$...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>, Thomas Paul
<TOMG...@PIPELINE.COM> writes

As someone who has worked in both the US and Europe I find this typical
of insular attitudes in the US. Of course there is software piracy in
all countries and very different rates as well, but to suggest that it
is more prevalent in the UK than the US smacks of either ignorance or
xenophobia. In my experience of working in both countries, there is very
little difference in the use of unregistered software between them.

The real situation is that UK retailers extract higher profit margins
than their US counterparts. Companies like Borland UK in fact have
effective price parity with their parent company in the US at the
wholesale level, but since their policy is to distribute through
rapacious retailers, the UK consumer ends up paying higher prices.

If they had the common sense to sell direct to developers and cut out
the middle man, we would all be better off. Go into a typical retail
outlet in the UK and the only support you will get is assistance in
opening your wallet.
--
Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake

There a re two classes of pirate:

1. Organised piracy on a grand scale involving milliions of dollars worth of software with
poorly reproduced manuals etc etc

2. The individual who takes a copy of some software from work/a friend/a relative etc who
couldn't afford to buy or justify the cost of the real thing because it costs way too much.

Whatever, the net effect of piracy is to reduce the total legitimate market for a product,
so the argument for increasing prices does hold (although supply/demand says that an
oversupplied market commands lower prices not higher - riddle me that one).  But, compare
the Amiga/Mac/Other Niche platform software market with the PC (I am generalising here -
not *all* PC software is inflated in price).  Equivalent software produced by smaller
software houses is generally cheaper (by 50% or more) in these markets with a smaller
installed base and consequently MUCH smaller markets, even without accounting for the
eroding effect of piracy on *these* markets.

Corel's scheme of maintaining previous releases of software at ever decreasing prices is
the way to go.  If Microsoft were to maintain sales of Word 2.0 at a suitably reduced
prices, I'm sure the number of pirated copies of Word 6/95 would plummet and then Microsoft
could reduce the price of its current titles as well (remeber it is only piracy that keeps
these prices at the levels they are at).  And of course they would.  Wouldn't they?

At the end of the day, inflated prices serve to line the pockets of vendors and publishers,
and piracy is just a convenient excuse.

Piracy is still illegal though and is not to be condoned or encouraged.
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Application Development Consultant   |  and do not necessarily represent the
PLATINUM Solutions (UK)              |  views of my employer.

tm>>A simple case of theft is the reason.  Incidents of software piracy
tm>>are much greater outside of the US and therefore the honest purchaser
tm>>must pay the price.  Sad but true.

I don't think Americans are that more honest than the rest of us are. I think
the inflated prices (like multiplying retail price in $ with 10 when the actual
rate of exchange is closer to 5) should take most of the blame.

This probably belongs in another newsgroup anyway...

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