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2005-06-15 04:39:09 AM
delphi58
Hello together,
as I read the license text to Delphi Personal 2005 I can commercally program
applications with it and sell them to my customers as long as I am a single
programmer, even if I am running a small business.
Is this right or do I misunderstand the term?
Thanks for your help,
Andreas Voßloh
 

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says...
considered a professional.
 

your own path of logic here, based on the word "Personal"?
John
Mark
 

"Andreas Voßloh" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
the attachments group.
Regards
Uffe
 

but your company (even if its only employee is yourself) cannot.
Implications are that you can not recover VAT f.i., and that you will fall
under whatever fiscal laws apply to individuals (vs those that apply to
companies), which in and of itself is bound to severely encourage you to
move to a regular license if your sales ever take off.
Eric
 

description you get before instaloing Delphi it says the following :
<quote>
In short, a personal licence means you can use Delphi 2005 Standard
(Personal) only if you are an individual rather than a business.
According to the licensing for this product, Borland grants to you, if
you are an individual only a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferrable
and limited licence to use the Product solely to create, compile
(including byte code compile), test and deploy, in source or object
code form, your own application programs and other works solely for
personal use. You may use the Product or any Works for any commercial
or business purpose provided that you are an Individual. Subject to the
other terms and conditions of this Agreement, you may distribute your
Works to others. If you are an entity, you may not obtain a Personal
licence.
</quote>
While this is what it says, I must admit it was not my previous
understanding. I believed also that to sell a product written in
delphi you need a professional or highere lisence. Solo developer or
otherwise.
I have professional already so I will have to get a VM window installed
before I can check the install itself to see what it says. In the mean
time, I thought this may help you guys.
 

Robin Martain writes:
--
Colin
 

personal edition.
-Atle
 

For clarification, the *actual* install of Delphi Personal has the
following in the agreement:
<quote>
2.4 Personal License. The terms of this Section 2.4
are applicable to you only if you have acquired a
Personal License, as defined below, for the Personal
edition of the Product directly from Borland or a
Borland authorized distributor or reseller. Subject to
the terms and conditions of this License, Borland
grants to you, if you are an individual only ("Named
User") a personal, nonexclusive, nontransferable and
limited license to use the Product solely to create,
compile (including byte code compile), test and deploy,
in source or object code form, your own application
programs and other works ("Works") solely for personal
use. You may use the Product or any Works for any
commercial or business purpose ("Commercial Purpose")
provided that you are an Individual. Subject to the
other terms and conditions of this Agreement, you may
distribute your Works to others. If you are an entity,
you may not obtain a Personal License.
</quote>
 

Atle Smelvær writes:
"You may use the Product or any Works for any commercial
or business purpose provided that you are an Individual. Subject to the
other terms and conditions of this Agreement, you may distribute your
Works to others."
I'd have to see the rest of the Agreement, though.
--
Leonel
 

"Robin Martain" <Robin@.com>writes
Previous versions where much clearer in this area.
personally owned "companies" can?
Regards
Uffe
 

Uffe Kousgaard writes:
working for a company. A company can't, regardless if it is owned by a
person or a group of people.
--
Leonel
 

Leonel a écrit :
So, what about people developping softwares at home ? , they are able to
sell they product ins't it ? I don't see anything in the licence going
against that !
 

Stephane Wierzbicki writes:
 

lawyers was to introduce (legal) clarity into the document so that the
points were (legally) clear and could not be contested.
It says you can produce works "solely for personal use."
However, "You may use the Product or any Works for any commercial or
business purpose ("Commercial Purpose")
provided that you are an Individual. Subject to the other terms and
conditions of this Agreement, you may distribute your Works to others."
I don't see though were it specifically says you can sell the product, or
conversely where it says that you can't. You might think that "any
commercial or business purpose" includes selling it, especially given that
you are allowed to distribute it, but that might not be the intention of the
clause. It might mean, for example, that if you somehow build yourself an
equivalent of MS Word and MS Excel using Delphi personal, you can use these
"works" for commercial purposes in your home business as a sole contractor,
and you can distribute them to others.
I think perhaps the document might need to be read as a whole to determine
what your rights with the personal licence are. Clause 2.4 by itself as
quoted is very vague and ambiguous, IMO.
Lauchlan M