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2006-11-23 06:27:30 AM
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Mike Vance writes:
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Robin.
 

gotta love the investment they put in their web site... makes you think
something fell apart in negotiations and they threw this together at the
last minute...
Ed Dressel
 

Captain Jake writes:
discussing it?
BTW, I like your idea, but have no idea how much effort would be involved
in implementing it, or whether there's any likelihood we will see it.
Rick Carter
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Jolyon Smith writes:
make.
My point, which you appear to be willfully ignoring, is that whoever
ended up owning CodeGear could do what you and other appear to be
saying Borland is, or isn't, going to do. In other words, whatever you
are saying now about Borland can be said about any other potential
owner. Therefore, whatever is being said is pointless.
very strong and that the problem lies elsewhere. ;-)
Borland people.
Again, I ask, what's the point?
have a discernible point with all of this, though. ;-)
newsgroups, and I confess that I really don't know what your agenda is
or what you hope to accomplish by your constant posting. As I said, I
don't think the problem is my reading comprehension.
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Nick Hodges
Delphi/C# Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.borland.com/nickhodges
 

Jolyon Smith writes:
closer to the situation, and know much more about exactly what is going
on, and I /don't/ fear it. But of course, you can fear it if you like.
I'm not going to stop you.
true. Do you assert that you know better than me and that I am wrong?
have bought us.
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Nick Hodges
Delphi/C# Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.borland.com/nickhodges
 

Jolyon Smith writes:
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Nick Hodges
Delphi/C# Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.borland.com/nickhodges
 

Jolyon Smith writes:
because you habitually say nay. ;-)
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Nick Hodges
Delphi/C# Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.borland.com/nickhodges
 

Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
CodeGear from Borland, how?"
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Dave Nottage [TeamB]
 

Nick Hodges (CodeGear) writes:
you're not expecting?
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Dave Nottage [TeamB]
 

non-tech without attracting the "yeah, but" replies. I suspected Jolyon
would be the first, and he met expectations. Can Chad Hower be far
behind?
Rick Carter
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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In article <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Dave Nottage [TeamB]
says...
as a whole. CodeGear now can not use the Borland departments and have to
provide their own.
Economics 101: Economies of scale.
In this case, it takes disproportionately more people to staff the admin
functions of a small organization versus a larger one.
One of the huge benefits of a corporate merger is the ability to combine
each corporations admin functions to handle the merged whole. The size
of those departments required to handle the merged entity is less than
the combined size of each separate corporate body, so the merged
corporate body benefits from reduced overall admin costs.
I thought everyone knew this was how and why mergers and acquisitions
inevitably result in lay-offs in these areas.
And naturally and self-evidently, when you SPLIT a company, the opposite
effect is true.
Or are we to believe that CodeGear is going to survive with no HR, no
Payroll and no Marketting functions? Is Nick going to be doing all
these jobs AND be a Product Manager?
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Jolyon Smith
 

Jolyon,
| Aren't you getting dizzy?
I know I am from your constant negativism about the CG spin-off. You
must have a really bad thorn in your side to keep harping on all the
potential negative things that might happen. Especially since they, as
well as all the positive things that might happen, can, and will happen
as they will as CG goes forward regardless of who owns CodeGear or what
you or I or anyone else thinks. Your negative opinion doesn't mean
it's going to happen that way.
I think it is time to move on and quit wasting Nick's and other's time
and let them get to work on moving CodeGear forward.
JMPO.
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Q
11/22/2006 16:32:09
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Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
soon that they aren't.
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Nick Hodges
Delphi/C# Product Manager - CodeGear
blogs.borland.com/nickhodges
 

In article <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Rick Carter says...
:)
However, please note that my post was not negative, but realistic. I
also didn't actually say that I disagreed that the split is a good
thing, only that it is far too early to say.
(I added my _opinion_ something to which I believe I am entitled and no
less valid for not being naively optimistic, that the signs
_at_this_stage_ are not good, imho)
But go ahead, paint me as a habitual nay-sayer if that is what will help
you get through the day.
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Jolyon Smith
 

In article <4564cba0$XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Nick Hodges (CodeGear)
says...
other words.
As it is I fear CodeGear is the worst of all worlds: Not wholly
independent but unable to benefit from being part of a larger
organisation.
No doubt you will re-assert that you ARE independent (of Borland), with
no Borland employees exerting any influence or control over CodeGear
operations.
Which may well be true today, but only because Borland allow it - which
could change, and if it does it will be Borland's decision to change it,
not yours, and there will be nothing that anyone at CodeGear could do to
prevent Borland doing whatever they choose with/to CodeGear.
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Jolyon Smith