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VCL.Net or FCL ??


2003-12-30 10:14:29 AM
delphi133
Hi there,
Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL from
Microsoft in Delphi 8?
Will Borland keep on upgrading their VCL.Net if Microsoft come out new FCL
? Or, VCL.Net just provide a temporary solution for Delphi user to enter the
world of .Net ?
regards,
Ang Lik Huar
 
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

You will get smaller exes with FCL
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Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL from
Microsoft in Delphi 8?

Will Borland keep on upgrading their VCL.Net if Microsoft come out new
FCL
? Or, VCL.Net just provide a temporary solution for Delphi user to enter
the
world of .Net ?

regards,
Ang Lik Huar


 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 10:14:29 +0800, "Ang Lik Huar"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL from
Microsoft in Delphi 8?
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Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

Thanks Tony,
But smaller exe is not important. The most important thing is the future
of VCL.Net !
regards,
Ang Lik huar
"Colonel Tony" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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You will get smaller exes with FCL

>Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL
from
>Microsoft in Delphi 8?
>
>Will Borland keep on upgrading their VCL.Net if Microsoft come out new
FCL
>? Or, VCL.Net just provide a temporary solution for Delphi user to enter
the
>world of .Net ?
>
>regards,
>Ang Lik Huar
>
>


 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:04:00 +0800, "Ang Lik Huar"
<XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
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The most important thing is the future
of VCL.Net !
The future of VCL.NET is pretty good, I think.
Nick Hodges - TeamB
Lemanix Corporation
Please always follow the newsgroup guidelines --
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Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

"Ang Lik Huar" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL from
Microsoft in Delphi 8?
Will Borland keep on upgrading their VCL.Net if Microsoft come out new
FCL
? Or, VCL.Net just provide a temporary solution for Delphi user to enter
the
world of .Net ?
IMHO if you are starting from scratch and don't have much legacy code, I'd
start fresh and clean with a standard .Net solution.
There's plenty of WinForms controls out there and there will be even more in
the future and your "business" code should work regardless of VCL or FCL
(after all it is Delphi code). What we know today is that WinForms will be
part of the next generation Windows and are being worked on and tested on
Mono as well. Add the terabyte or more <G>of documentation and examples out
there. I don't think there's a clear message about the "future" of VCL: we
know it probabily a good mechanism to port TDBGrids and TButtons but we
don't yet know much what 3rd parties will do nor if Borland is planning to
market it as an alternative path to UI development or just as a migration
thing. Given the uncertainty, I would go the standard route (which, BTW, should
also be the reason to move to .Net. If you want to use VCL, why don't you
just stay Windows 32??).
My 2hc <G>
--
Best regards,
Alessandro Federici
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

"Nick Hodges (TeamB)" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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The future of VCL.NET is pretty good, I think.
I surely hope it is better than CLX's <G>
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

"Ang Lik Huar" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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But smaller exe is not important. The most important thing is the future
of VCL.Net !
Well, if you've already made up your mind, why ask the question? ;-)
The .NET Framework classes are better for EXE file size, but VCL.NET is
better if you're coming from Delphi/Win32 and migrating existing apps to
.NET. You pays your money and you takes your choice....
Dave
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

Ang Lik Huar writes:
Quote
Hi there,

Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL
from Microsoft in Delphi 8?

Will Borland keep on upgrading their VCL.Net if Microsoft come out
new FCL ? Or, VCL.Net just provide a temporary solution for Delphi user
to enter the world of .Net ?
Of course I can only guess, but Borland spent a lot of time developing
VCL.NET, so I can not imagine it is meant as a temporary solution.
So if you ask me, I think the VCL still has a future.
--
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems."
- Paul Erdos
 

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In borland.public.delphi.non-technical, Alessandro Federici
<alef@remobjects[remove-this].com>writes <3ff12372$1
@newsgroups.borland.com>...
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I surely hope it is better than CLX's <G>
I don't see how it could be worse, unless it comes with germs that give you
diarrhea. <g>
--
***Free Your Mind***
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

Hi,
Quote
Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL
from
Microsoft in Delphi 8?

Do you already have clients asking for .Net Winforms app or are you testing
Delphi .Net for yourself ?
Regards,
Oliver
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

Hi there,
I'm testing and evaluate the Delphi.Net.
I think the main disadvantage is that if i wan to develop ASP.Net, i can't
use the VCL.Net library, so , i need to learn the FCL. If i need to learn
the FCL, then why i need to choose Delphi instead of MS C# ?
regards,
Ang Lik Huar
"Oliver Feins" <oliverfeins@rmeloo>writes
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Hi,

>Which Class Library should i choose ? VCL.Net from Borland of FCL
>from
>Microsoft in Delphi 8?
>

Do you already have clients asking for .Net Winforms app or are you
testing
Delphi .Net for yourself ?

Regards,

Oliver

 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

Ang Lik Huar writes:
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I think the main disadvantage is that if i wan to develop ASP.Net, i can't
use the VCL.Net library, so , i need to learn the FCL. If i need to learn
the FCL, then why i need to choose Delphi instead of MS C# ?
Because Borland is independent of MS and because Delphi.NET is a better
language than C#.
David
 

Re:VCL.Net or FCL ??

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>The most important thing is the future of VCL.Net !
NHT>The future of VCL.NET is pretty good, I think.
We all thought that future of Kylix/CLX is pretty good also when it start to
shipping. ;-)