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Thomas Edison

Delphi Developer
 

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?


2004-08-05 07:40:50 PM
delphi282
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:10:32 +0100, Joanna Carter (TeamB) writes:
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"Craig van Nieuwkerk" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>a écrit dans le message de news:
XXXX@XXXXX.COM...

>test.booklist.com.au
Following this link closed my computer down.
Call me Mr. StateTheObvious, but if your computer can be closed down just
from visiting a website, you have a real problem. :-)
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Was this intentional?
It didn't happen here.
 
 
Dave Nottage [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 07:59:51 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

German Gentile writes:
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So, you dont understand what i want to see.
Perhaps you should say what you do want to see?
--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
 
German Gentile

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 08:55:59 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

Dave Nottage [TeamB] writes:
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German Gentile writes:


>So, you dont understand what i want to see.

Perhaps you should say what you do want to see?

A complex Real World *working* application, not using third party
components.
German.
 

Dominic Hall

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:01:33 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

"German Gentile" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>
 >How about:
 >
 >www.thebulliondesk.com
 >
 >You can get more real world than this.
 >
 >Typically 30k-40K sessions per day, 1500 to 4000 concurrent users
 >
 >Over 1 million price updates per day. Utilises multi-threaded real time
 >dot NET remoting etc etc.
Seams great. Are you using some third party components? Are you using
VCL .Net or standard .Net compos?

>
 >We DESERVE very sympathetic treatment when it comes to D9 as we have
 >practically written the book on D8.
 >
 >Both very frustrating and rewarding at the same time.
 >
Ditto, in the topic. Some of us dont have the same *time to experiment*,
so fail.

Best Regards and congratulations.

German.
D8 out of the box, plus "Obout slide menu" and "ChartDirector" controls.
 
German Gentile

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:02:13 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

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How about:

www.thebulliondesk.com

You can get more real world than this.

Typically 30k-40K sessions per day, 1500 to 4000 concurrent users

Over 1 million price updates per day. Utilises multi-threaded real time
dot NET remoting etc etc.
Seams great. Are you using some third party components? Are you using
VCL .Net or standard .Net compos?
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We DESERVE very sympathetic treatment when it comes to D9 as we have
practically written the book on D8.

Both very frustrating and rewarding at the same time.

Ditto, in the topic. Some of us dont have the same *time to experiment*,
so fail.
Best Regards and congratulations.
German.
 
Joanna Carter (TeamB)

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:03:46 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

"Craig van Nieuwkerk" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>a écrit dans le message de news:
41121741$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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Considering that Delphi 8 is a pretty new (less than 12 months) I dont
think
you are going to find any huge apps.
Well, I tried your site again and this time I got there :-)
I must say I love the Win9x login screen, just hit Cancel to enter the site
:-))
But seriously, if this is all done in D8, then I am impressed, especially as
I didn't understand too much of the content :-)
Joanna
Consultant Software Engineer
TeamBUG support for UK-BUG
TeamMM support for ModelMaker
 
Phil Shrimpton

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:04:44 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

German Gentile writes:
Hi,
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>Perhaps you should say what you do want to see?
 >
A complex Real World working application, not using third party
components.
Why does use of third-party components make an application not a real
world application?
I have spent my working life creating 'complex real world' applications
in a number of different languages for a number of platforms, and all
of them use third-party components. If I did not use them, I would
still be be halfway through re-inventing the wheel to create my first
application.
--
Phil
 
German Gentile

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:07:54 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

Peter Herijgers writes:
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Do you use Delphi 7?
From D1 to Delphi 8 i put my money there.<g>
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Are you happy with it?
Yes, except D4 and D8.
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Have you never bought or tried thirdparty components?
Yeap. As it is the point?
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Wel those sites were made in less than two hours.

Have you ever tried HTML?
Yeap. again, as it is the point?
Best regards.
German.
 
Dominic Hall

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:13:28 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

"German Gentile" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>
 >D8 out of the box, plus "Obout slide menu" and "ChartDirector" controls.
 >
Plus java, i see. how much percentage is in Java?

Best Regards.

German.
We use a small java applet that polls our .NET cache and parses the
resulting return to modify the price and news fields using DHTML/Javascript.
Hence the Java is only the mechanism to make the content dynamic.
 
German Gentile

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:15:04 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

Phil Shrimpton writes:
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German Gentile writes:

Hi,


>>Perhaps you should say what you do want to see?
 >>
 >
 >A complex Real World working application, not using third party
 >components.

Why does use of third-party components make an application not a real
world application?
I never said that.
But is strange that is not possible to see an application that uses only
standard VCL .Net.
Best regards
German.
 
German Gentile

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:16:11 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

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D8 out of the box, plus "Obout slide menu" and "ChartDirector" controls.

Plus java, i see. how much percentage is in Java?
Best Regards.
German.
 
Alan Garny

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:25:00 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

"German Gentile" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Phil Shrimpton writes:
>German Gentile writes:
 >
 >Hi,
 >
 >
 >>>Perhaps you should say what you do want to see?
 >>>
 >>
 >>A complex Real World working application, not using third party
 >>components.
 >
 >
 >Why does use of third-party components make an application not a real
 >world application?
I never said that.
But is strange that is not possible to see an application that uses only
standard VCL .Net.
How much experience of programming do you have? I really wonder...
Alan.
 
Bob Dawson

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 09:33:08 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

"Dominic Hall" wrote
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>>How about:
 >>
 >>www.thebulliondesk.com
 [snip]
D8 out of the box, plus "Obout slide menu" and "ChartDirector" controls.
Very nice in deed. Congratulations to the development team!
bobD
 
Wayne Niddery [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 10:10:05 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

German Gentile writes:
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But is strange that is not possible to see an application that uses
only standard VCL .Net.
A *web* application would not use *VCL* controls in Delphi 8 anymore than one
would in any other version of Delphi. VCL controls work on Windows forms.
--
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RADBooks: www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html
Working for yourself is great because you get to work half days, and
you can choose any twelve hours you want.
 
Lauchlan M

Delphi Developer

2004-08-05 10:20:46 PM

Re: Delphi 9 .NET will be free for betatesters of Delphi 8 .NET?

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Whats the difference? The point is that Delphi 8 is being used for
developing commercial applications.
Web applications.
I think the OP was implcitly talking about desktop apps, but maybe that's
just my reading of it . . .
Lauchlan M