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Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)


2005-02-04 11:01:02 PM
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Rune Moberg writes:
[...]
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The difficult bit is convincing a group of "developer superheros" (or
whatever the T-Shirt said) that they need to refactor their code.
Sure, as I said, it is a neat feature, but most of us do not go
around admitting that we need to refactor our code.
[...]
You're joking here, right?
--
Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software
 
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Rune Moberg writes:
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Who here can honestly talk about databases without dying a little on
the inside themselves?
I can, but then I live in a messy world. For us values can be
(value), unknown, definately unknown, and N/A. For us 1990, 7/1990 and
12/7/1990 are all valid dates. Representing gender is nonobvious.
It's exciting, and occasionally painful when you get new "valid" data.
--
Mike Swaim XXXX@XXXXX.COM at home | Quote: "Boingie"^4 Y,W & D
MD Anderson Dept. of Biostatistics & Applied Mathematics
XXXX@XXXXX.COM or XXXX@XXXXX.COM at work
ICBM: 29.763N 95.363W|Disclaimer: Yeah, like I speak for MD Anderson.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

That is excellent, Mike.
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Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Rune Moberg writes:
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Sure, as I
said, it is a neat feature, but most of us do not go around admitting
that we need to refactor our code.
I refactor my code all the time, because I freely admit it needs it.
--
Nick Hodges -- TeamB
Lemanix Corporation -- www.lemanix.com
Read my Blog -- www.lemanix.com/nick
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Rune Moberg writes:
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most of us do not go around admitting that
we need to refactor our code.
Oh-oh.. Maxwell is impersonating Rune <g>
--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Rune Moberg writes:
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Who here can honestly talk about databases without dying a little
on the inside themselves?
/me raises his hand
"If it weren't for databases, I would have no job at all, gloom,
despair, and agony oh me..."
-Brion
(apologies to anyone else who actually remembers Hee Haw)
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Unfortunately for me, Borland perceives bytecode languages as the way of
the future for business database applications, and that is the market
the are pursuing. I hope some project appears that carries the torch
for native compiled Delphi applications.
And for those snots that do not like the term BYTECODE, please give me a
better term that gets the idea across.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

I love good news. Now, I haven't switched from Delphi 7 to D2005 -- yet --
because I am hoping D2006/D2007 overcomes some of the D32-specific bugs
I have read about, but I am thrilled when I hear D-sales are doing
great.
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The Delphi product lines are quite healthy, and .NET is a significant
contributor to the market's renewed interest in Delphi.
-Danny
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

"Brion L. Webster" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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"If it weren't for databases, I would have no job at all, gloom,
despair, and agony oh me..."

-Brion

(apologies to anyone else who actually remembers Hee Haw)
My dad used to watch it every time it was one when I was a kid. I know it
well.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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I refactor my code all the time, because I freely admit it needs it.
Hello, my name is John Jacobson, and I am a Refactoraholic.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

"Dennis Landi" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Exactly. The world is divided between the "Drag and Droppers" and
software
engineers.
Thanks -- I will start using the term "Drag and Droppers" from now on.
--
Rune
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

"Captain Jake" <jake[nospam]@jsnewsreader.com>writes
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Anyone who thinks their code never needs refactoring is
not humble enough to be a truly great programmer, IMHO. Nobody types
perfect
code, not even you Dennis.
FWIW, in case you're referring to my post, the point isn't what you, the
developer, think of your own code, but rather what your Pointy Haired Boss
might think as you tell him you need a tool to put your shoddy code into
better shape. Explaining that refactoring is really a 'good thing' could
prove an interesting exercise when not dealing with other developers.
After all, in the old days some outfits measured productivity by the amount
of code that the developer produced. In such a world, refactoring isn't a
factor... :)
So as such... When you tell your boss that it is time for the annual
upgrade... Perhaps avoid the topic entirely. (but, and this is the second
point I was trying to make, the other features are very complex too... Put a
big "recompile and gain 20% increase in performance!" sticker on the box,
and you instantly have a feature that is easy to market)
--
Rune
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Michael Anonymous writes:
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:

>Michael Anonymous writes:
>
>>You are against Borland developing a 64 bit compiler in favor of
>>something more profitable. Therefore, you are "anti-64-bit" right now.
>
>
>
>Being in (more) favour of one thing does not equate to being
>anti-something else. If you have a to-do list in order of highest to
>lowest priority, are you *against* all items from #2 on?
>

I'm for doing all the items on my to-do list.
I only wish there was a to-do list for Delphi's ....
future.
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

"Dave Nottage [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
message news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
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There's an enormous difference between something "working just fine",
and something that allows you to get your job done so much easier and
quicker by providing the supporting infrastrucure and tools to help in
Magazines, books and online discussion groups seem to favour MS' own .Net
tools.
You know just as well as I do that you can not convert VB(Visual Basic) users by claiming
tool superiority ("bah! MS will do that too in their next version!"). Kylix
was good in this regard, since that was one unique feature MS lacked. Had
the situation been handled properly, Kylix should've helped sell more Win32
SKUs. (most developers probably don't even realise that Kylix was the Linux
version of Delphi)
--
Rune
 

Re: [64-bit Delphi] A msg from Hairy (van Tassel)

Nick Hodges [TeamB] writes:
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Rune,

I think it is rude and offensive to insist that someone holds a view
that they clearly say that they do not.
<snip>
The problem here is how some people in the audience ( us ) interpret your actions.
You may believe one thing and say your "for it" but
when some of us get the impression that your actions
aren't in accordance with your beliefs,
we start making statements pointing out the problem.