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Brian Moelk
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Brian Moelk
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Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?2003-08-06 10:01:14 PM delphi173 QuoteWhat is so much better in C# than VB.NET? Half the time you are QuoteI suspect it is just a matter of which one you get used to, at the end of |
Kyle A. Miller
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2003-08-07 01:06:11 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
Lauchlan M writes:
QuoteWhat is so much better in C# than VB.NET? Half the time you are referencing in a .NET environment. It is because of this I am thinking of going with JBuilder. At least Java is a different galaxy. In DFW, Java jobs still out number C#/.NET jobs according to Dice. |
Lauchlan M
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2003-08-07 06:45:02 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?Quote>What is so much better in C# than VB.NET? Half the time you are (BTW, my first impressions were also that I liked C# better for the syntax, but I have come around to the point where I don't see such big differences). Lauchlan M |
Sierra Spartacus
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2003-08-07 08:44:00 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Brian Moelk" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteDim is a dumb keyword -- Clay Shannon, author of "the Wacky Misadventures of Warble McGorkle" Download it at tinyurl.com/cent |
Chris Burrows
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2003-08-07 12:54:20 PM
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"Sierra Spartacus" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes news:XXXX@XXXXX.COM... Quote>Dim is a dumb keyword CFB Software www.cfbsoftware.com |
Sierra Spartacus
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2003-08-07 09:14:57 PM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Chris Burrows" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
Quote"Sierra Spartacus" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM> does it look, sound, smell, or taste like one. "Dim" as a keyword seems nonsensical and nonsequiterial. it is as if someone were to begin every paragraph with the word "Kumquat" (or perhaps more accurately, every place where the word "yesterday" is to appear, you replace it with the word "pickle"). I think Edsger was right about BASIC (see DavidI's latest "Sip From the Firehose" for his exact quote). -- Clay Shannon, author of "the Wacky Misadventures of Warble McGorkle" Download it at tinyurl.com/cent |
Luk Vermeulen
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2003-08-08 06:04:56 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Sierra Spartacus" writes:
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Sierra Spartacus
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2003-08-08 10:56:26 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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I'm not crazy about "=" as an assignment operator, as that would make more sense as the equality operator. IOW, if logic prevailed, C#'s assignment and equality operators would be reversed. I also see nothing wrong with "{}"--it's a lot faster than typing begin and end (albeit a little less clear). QuoteGet over it. Clay Shannon, author of "the Wacky Misadventures of Warble McGorkle" Download it at tinyurl.com/cent |
Harry Van Tassell
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2003-08-08 09:44:49 PM
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Sierra Spartacus writes:
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Get outta here... -- Hairy <dumbfounded but not whacky> |
Dan Barclay
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2003-08-09 04:39:16 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Sierra Spartacus" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>
writes news:3f3392fc$XXXX@XXXXX.COM... Quote"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes QuoteI'm not crazy about "=" as an assignment operator, as that would make more but not a great deal. Of course ".EQ.", as God intended it, would solve all those concerns<g>. While we're at it, .NOT., .AND. and .OR. are not given near enough credit. QuoteIOW, if logic prevailed, C#'s assignment and Quote>Get over it. |
Oliver Townshend
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2003-08-09 07:46:31 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?QuoteAnd you use the dimension keyword for setting up arrays as well, which may started using Option Explicit all the time (a principle taken from Pascal, I'm sure). Oliver Townshend |
Chris Burrows
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2003-08-09 08:49:28 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Dan Barclay" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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compound-statements. 'End' involves typing only one additional character than {}and is much easier to see. I have a lot of difficulty distinguishing between '{' and '('. e.g. for i := 1 to 10 do singlestatement; end; for i := 1 to 10 do statementOne; statementTwo; end; Chris Burrows CFB Software www.cfbsoftware.com |
Sierra Spartacus
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2003-08-09 08:08:45 PM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
"Chris Burrows" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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provided you write example 1 like this: for i := 1 to 10 do singlestatement; -- Clay Shannon, author of "the Wacky Misadventures of Warble McGorkle" Download it at tinyurl.com/cent |
Andrew Gabb
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2003-08-09 10:01:13 PM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
Scott Metzger writes:
QuoteSo do I, but that really doesn't matter when finding a job. What go to conferences, etc., etc. QuoteA very real problem is the 45-50 yr old programmer who has up-to-date QuoteDo you think that a recently acquired MS degree for a 45-50 yr old will QuoteI am really interested in learning from someone older, how I can avoid and Word VBA) - keeps me in beer and skittles. I don't advertise or even really 'network'. My work comes from referrals from other clients and some other consultants who know I won't let their clients down. I have been offered full and part time work from some of these clients, because I genuinely *understand* their problems and customise solutions that really work. Many have been previously burnt by cowboys - there's lots of those around. As I got older, I wondered how to stay ahead of the kids. The truth of the matter is that if you have only the same effective experience of a kid, you will lose against them, so you have to play it smart. You have to understand people and business as well as the technical issues and if you haven't been working on this for 20 years, it's probably too late to start. In any case, you start by working out what your boss needs to know, and his boss, so you can be of more value to them. Almost all kids are wet behind the ears when it comes to almost anything except design, code and test. To get a job, you need to have these skills plus the advantages of maturity. Certain skills, like systems engineering in general, requirements engineering, configuration management, quality management, risk management, people management, and so forth *need* to mature, and it is rare finding anyone under 30 who really understands them. So take a 'total' approach to your job, lift your eyes, and learn what the world of software engineering's all about. I am not saying you have to become a manager or even a team leader (I never was), but you need to understand the ins and outs of these roles. You also need to keep up technically, which involves a lot of work, typically 10-20% on top of your 40-60 hours a week. Find out what's new and likely to persist and learn about it. Volunteer for work that's new and exciting and where you can learn on work time (yes, it sometimes happens). Go to conferences and trade shows. You'll never keep totally up with the kids in this regard, but you can still know much more than most of em do. This group and others are good, so are some magazines (I used to read them on planes). Also learn how organisations work. Work on doing things more efficiently than anyone else. This takes time and knowledge to achieve, but its the key to being a valuable employee. In interviews, avoid bullshit slime pitches - there'll be enough other candidates trying this on - and concentrate on your proven ability to solve problems, even where the problems extend beyond the code (and most of them do). Don't *push* your maturity and experience at the expense of the technical task - you still need to be able to do the job. Finally, expect to lose a few. Remember that the interviewers may not value what you offer, whether they need it or not. that is OK - you don't want to work for them anyway. There are plenty of gray-hairs out there making good money, believe me. But most of them are very, very good at what they do, and they love their work. Andrew -- Andrew Gabb email: XXXX@XXXXX.COM Adelaide, South Australia phone: +61 8 8342-1021, fax: +61 8 8269-3280 ----- |
William Meyer
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2003-08-10 08:48:13 AM
Re: Masters in C.S., worth it?
On 09-Aug-03, Sierra Spartacus said:
QuoteWell, that at least makes sense; "dim" still sounds goofy, though. Bill -------- In a free society, government has the responsibility of protecting us from others, but not from ourselves. -- Walter Williams |