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2004-08-26 01:23:37 AM
delphi200
don't sell, they don't really have to be fixed, or that
resources are prioritized on other aspects (which boils
down to the same thing).
Eric
 

Iman L Crawford writes:
-Craig
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Personally, the broken support for multi-language in streams
(2378 and a handful of related ones with less votes) is the most
painful as we had to go multi-language on an application
recently (it was in the top ten month before patch vote was
announced, and still is in the top ten, and was entered
in late 2002, dunno, maybe Borland doesn't care to test Delphi
in non-english systems anymore).
Most entries in the 10 top rated already existed too at the time IIRC.
Not sure about the rest... as QC has essentially turned out as
a major waste of time, haven't visited it much since and my
bookmarked entries went to the recycler in a cleanup some time ago.
Eric
 

Eric Grange writes:
that before:
www.lemanix.com/nick/archive/2004/04/21/379.aspx
general. Perhaps for you it has been. I do know that /Borland/
doesn't consider it a big waste of time, but views it as a very
valuable tool for fixing customer problems and gauging customer needs.
I'll say it again: If you want Borland to hear you, use QC.
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Iman L Crawford writes:
source, I could pick and choose what bug fixes I wanted to live with or
live with all of them or non of them. The power would be in my hands
and yours, not Borland. As it is now, Borland totally screwed us
on D7. I have lots of bug fixes in dbExpress Plus, but can not make them
completely public because many of the fixes are to private section of
code. Borland could ignore the open source version of the VCL or pick
and choose from it as well. It seems that Indy is a good product.
Why not open up the rest of the VCL (or at least parts of it).
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Thomas Miller
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
It's plain that bug fixes are the lowest priority because they
don't sell, so let us fix them ourselves. Right now we are hand
cuffed because we can not freely distribute bug fixes between
ourselves.
I think you are kind of making my point for me!!!
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Thomas Miller
Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer
BSS Accounting & Distribution Software
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Leonel writes:
specific feature.
QC users know and understand this from the start.
However, the period leading up to a new release now seems to transition
very abruptly from the phase "what next release? it is at least a year
away!" to "sorry, too late, we've planned all the new features already".
What I am after is to reinforce the promise of user influence that QC was
supposed to be all about.
--
Kristofer
 

JED writes:
D9 is a full new release with (hopefully) new features,
so we'd be voting on new features rather than bugs.
I think that'd be a refreshing novelty!
--
Kristofer
 

"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
showed us some hard evidence that they indeed hear/d us... The Delphi 7 patch
hasn't done improved anything for me, so, for me, Borland hasn't heard me...
Then again, I agree they cannot listen to everybody, but eh, I am the
customer, so I am entitled to want them to listen to me, no matter what...
<g>
Alan.
 

"Kristofer Skaug" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
are also looking forward to all the bugs to be addressed... I guess we, as
end users, will never be 100% satisfied... <g>
Alan.
 

"Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" writes:
sell?
 

The notion that open source is magic which automatically fixes
everything is belied by the fact that open source projects fail at
least as frequently as closed source projects. And projects which
start life as open source and become closed source, or vice versa, only
make the road rockier.
Sorry, I just don't buy these assertions of commercial nirvana by open
sourcing a closed-source product. And I especially don't buy the
assertion that Delphi developers, who have (95% of) the VCL source and
a supported mechanism for exchanging bug fixes (QC) have no way of
distributing fixes.
-Craig
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Thomas Miller writes:
to do it for you. Steve Trefethen used a Delphi-language, freeware
tool to do the same thing for the Action Manager component fixes.
-Craig
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Alan Garny writes:
"Well, they didn't fix /my/ personal pet peeve bug, so the whole thing
must be broken."
;-)
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Davids writes:
either. Whether a product is fairly stable or very buggy, people are
understandably reluctant to pay for bug fixes, if indeed they even
notice them.
-Craig
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