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Jim Cooper

Delphi Developer
 

Re: God I Love Delphi7


2004-12-23 12:38:34 AM
delphi46
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Hum hum.. are we talking about the same thing?
I imagine so :-) I just don't promote properties all that often. I can't
remember doing it for classes other than components derived from the VCL.
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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Jim Cooper

Delphi Developer

2004-12-23 12:49:24 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

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Honestly, I also don't beleive that future versions of
Windows will just have dotNET classes
While that may be some time off, it is an avowed eventual aim. But in
the near future, there will be APIs for new technologies that will only
be .NET. I have this directly from senior product managers at MS.
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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Alvaro GP

Delphi Developer

2004-12-23 07:42:32 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

If you aren't interested in removing .NET from your computer, let me
say that this conversation makes little sense. I can not expect anything
productive from this if you never try what I am proposing. Of course I
fully respect your different interests and necessities.
 

Bruce McGee

Delphi Developer

2004-12-23 08:39:29 PM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Alvaro GP writes:
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If you aren't interested in removing .NET from your computer, let me
say that this conversation makes little sense. I can not expect anything
productive from this if you never try what I am proposing. Of course I
fully respect your different interests and necessities.
Again, I just pointed out that removing .Net doesn't leave Delphi 2005
unaffected, regardless of whether it is important functionality or
replacements might be available.
I'm all for having options, even (especially) ones I won't necessarily
take advantage of. They should just be well informed options, right?
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Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software
 
Sakis Papademetriou

Delphi Developer

2004-12-23 10:10:00 PM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Refactoring /definitely/ needs .Net
Correct, but it also needs some files not installed by "Win32 Personality"
part of installer.
Sakis
 
David Farrell-Garcia

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 03:31:45 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Jim Cooper writes:
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While that may be some time off, it is an avowed eventual aim. But in
the near future, there will be APIs for new technologies that will
only be .NET. I have this directly from senior product managers at MS.
absolutly correct, and I am not sure why some choose not to believe
that.
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David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC
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David Farrell-Garcia

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 03:36:24 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Liz writes:
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Not that long ago, it was the whole world is going java, the world
revolves round java, then came .net and everyones going on about
.net.. it has its purposes but I think if you dont believe that more
new technologies are going to come is just as blinkered..
we can never predict that far ahead, but there is a huge difference in
the hype over Java compared to the supposed hype over .Net. Java is
not an operating system. The company providing the hype for .Net own
the operating system. You have to decide if you want to believe their
message about the future of the Windows API and its accessibility.
Quote

Someone recently pointed out that next to all dos programs work on
win2003..
Some run. Some don't, I also have Delphi 1 applications running on
Windows Server 2003 and XP but there are problems with stability under
Wow.exec.
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David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC
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David Farrell-Garcia

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 05:37:58 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Andrea Raimondi writes:
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I never dared say that. My wording was incomplete. The ADO editor
comes with ADO, so I would be expecting the *ADO.NET* editor to come with
ADO.NET . It doesn't, so I lose a piece.
It should be easier but you can get to it via reflection, and you only
have to do it once. I have seen a number of implmenations of this but
here is a source code link for you.
dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/malio/archive/2004/05/01/12539.aspx
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David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC
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Chris Burrows

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 07:11:17 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

"Sakis Papademetriou" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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"Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
news:41c999fb$XXXX@XXXXX.COM...
>Refactoring /definitely/ needs .Net
Correct, but it also needs some files not installed by "Win32 Personality"
part of installer.

I'd like to know which files they are if you happen to know.
Thanks,
 
David Farrell-Garcia

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 07:35:13 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Andrea Raimondi writes:
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That's not the problem. The problem is that it is not there for a
precise choice. A marketing choice. It should be there, imho.
oh, i agree, but it is not a very big issue and easily handled. If
that is your biggest issue then all is well. :-) By the way, please
don't email me privately until I get to know you better. :-)
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David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC
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Tim Jarvis

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 08:36:04 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Andrea Raimondi writes:
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I really hope that native code being here to stay is not questioned.
By Native code, do you mean the undocumented and hidden native API (as
exists in NTDLL.dll & Kernel32.dll)? because if you do then I hope you
are not betting on that assumtion.
Cheers Tim.
 
Tim Jarvis

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 08:52:02 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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Tim Jarvis writes:

>Andrea Raimondi writes:
 >
 >
 >>I really hope that native code being here to stay is not
 >>questioned.
 >
 >By Native code, do you mean the undocumented and hidden native API
 >(as exists in NTDLL.dll & Kernel32.dll)? because if you do then I
 >hope you are not betting on that assumtion.
No, he means natively compiled code, as opposed to managed code
compiled to native code by a jitter, I guess.
ahh,
Still, if there is one thing I have learned in this game, is never say
never :-)
 
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2004-12-24 10:56:11 PM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Andrea Raimondi writes:
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Mine, actually, is a P4 1.80 GHz with 30GB hard disk. Disk space is an
issue for me, beleive it or not.
This one is also a laptop with 30GB HD, but the size of .NET is not an
issue for me (my saved photos take up a lot more room <g>). I plan on
buying a nice, small 160GB USB-HD, for a couple of euros, though.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de
"He who hesitates is a damned fool."
- Mae West (1892-1980)
 
Andrew Rybenkov

Delphi Developer

2004-12-25 12:52:25 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

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its not uncommon for these guys to
have 8mb memory, and a few gb disks
Those, who have/had 8mb RAM, have/had 80-120Mb HDD.
At least it was typical those times.
Gbs HDs came with 32 Mb RAM.
 
David Farrell-Garcia

Delphi Developer

2004-12-25 03:44:42 AM

Re: God I Love Delphi7

Liz writes:
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Here here!

My main freeware app is basically a telnet client. Currently it fits
on a floppy have 8mb memory, and a few gb disks.. Because it still
does all they
need.. I think they'd be real mad at me if I went .net :)
a Few GB hardrive with 8MB memory??? Are you sure? Anyway, .Net is
probably not right for your floppy based freeware app. I don't think
you would be the target market but then again no dev product, fits
everyone.
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David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC
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