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2005-06-02 07:30:30 PM
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At 13:23:16, 02.06.2005, Alvaro GP writes:
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"Defining and analyzing humor is a pastime of humorless people."
-- Robert Benchley (1889 - 1945)
 

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
insinuated the contrary. Otherwise, can you tell me why did you include
this sentence in your initial post?:
"What is documented is official, and must be maintained. What is
undocumented can easily be changed without anyone formally complaining."
 

At 13:25:54, 02.06.2005, Alvaro GP writes:
tripe posted in this group.
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"A friendship founded on business is better than a business founded on
friendship."
- John D. Rockefeller (1874-1960)
 

XXXX@XXXXX.COM (ckd) wrote in news:429e1084.25891660
@forums.borland.com:
some value or you wouldn't spend the time here. That value is the sharing
of information and ideas with other Delphi users. So, is it too much to
ask that you also contribute constructively by reporting bugs that you
encounter?
 

"Angra Mainyu" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
without adding anything to it yourself? Sort of like picking up a loaf
of bread at the supermarket without paying for it because that is more
cost effective. Or going to a group dinner without bothering to bring
any food to share.
 

Gerard <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
relationship with Borland, what you buy is what you get with no
responsibility on either party to do anything additional. That includes
fixing bugs. So from that point of view, what is the justification for
complaining about bugs or demanding that they be fixed?
true? And a lot of responders to this post keep focusing on what
Borland is doing or not doing, getting or not getting. They miss the
point that I am trying to make. You and I are both users of Delphi. We
are trying to do the best that we can with that tool. We voluntarily
show up here on this newsgroup on a regular basis to share with each
other and, presumably, be of help to each other. To me, that is the
basic contract among any group of voluntary participants. Each of us
contributes to the pot of soup and pretty soon we have a very satisfying
and nourishing meal. If we don't contribute, it becomes a waste of time
and everyone loses. Do you still disagree?
 

Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
into the water without immediately catching something wasted? Ever done
any sales work? Are all those times that you called on a potential
customer without getting an order wasted?
As one businessman once commented: "I know that half of my advertising
budget is wasted. I just don't know which half!"
 

And by the way, I found your stubborn replies full of ignorance more
insulting than anything else in this group.
Cancel at will.
 

"Gerard" wrote
strictly economic. (Although I still think Larry's argument sound).
However, lets deal with the economics:
I'm primarily a Delphi developer--even if I didn't feel that way by choice,
it would still be what my resume says: I have been designing and writing
Delphi code for years, and cannot warp my record so far as to make an equal
case for any other toolset.
Anything I do to help Borland strengthen Delphi increases its changes of
surviving and prospering in the marketplace, and therefore makes my skills
and experience more valuable and saleable. On the other hand, anything I do
to disparage Delphi or discourage its widespread use devalues the
marketability of much of my skills.
It would seem, then, that my commercial relationship with Borland encourages
me, for purely selfish reasons, to make reasonable efforts to promote and
strengthen the Delphi product and its community.
bobD
 

Alvaro GP writes:
we spend a wonderful evening on Monday in Arnheim, Netherlands after
the conference sessions.
I can only say that you're arrogance to say that know about everything
that goes on in this world is amazing. I have never seen that in another
person.
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Holger Flick writes:
there with you on that Monday?
Delphi business to care about.
 

Two messages cancelled for personal attacks. Please keep all messages
on this server free of insults.
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"Larry Drews midfinance.com" wrote
affluent small town that has a voluntary fire dept, rescue squad, and
gardening ladies who beautify the town. I absolutely admire and applaud
these Good Samaritans, their compassion warms my heart and reduces my taxes.
is the equivlent of stealing bread from a supermarket?
and it is well understood that providing your own share is a condition of
attending. When I purchase a copy of Delphi I must agree to an EULA but
don't remember it saying that contributing bug reports was a condition of my
using the product. Nor have I ever heard anyone from Borland making such a
statement.
As I stated in the begriming of that message it was my purpose to point out
to Rudy that one can not necessarily treat bug reporting as just a trivial
cost.
 

"Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
but will ever be fixed, then that could trump all other
considerations.
But there are pleanty of other reasons why someone may which to not
report a bug, and it is not always laziness or lack of severity.
--
Chris (TeamB);
 

"Angra Mainyu" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in
participating in these newsgroups. Voicing my viewpoints in civil
language, helping others technically when I can. Do you feel that you
have no such obligation to this group?
And so are you saying that if it is not required by law or contractual
agreement that you are not going to contribute?
So what are the contractual obligations that you incur if you take a
woman to dinner? What contractual obligations does she incur? Do you
discuss these issues thoroughly and commit them to writing before the
dinner?
If you have children, you are under no contractual obligation to educate
them or socialize them. After all, the state usually takes care of
education, correct (for which you usually pay via taxes or tuition).
And if the state does not educate them in a particular area, you have no
reason to spend any energy making up for the deficiency, right? After
all, you haven't signed a contract!
ISTM that not all our activities are controlled by law or explicit
contract. Do you disagree?