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XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Bruce McGee
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Jolyon Smith writes:
>In article <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>, Bruce McGee
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>>Well, CodeGear is going to
>>need convincing arguments.
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>ime such things rarely carry any weight with CodeGear.
Oh please. They changed the direction of the Delphi 2007 beta based on
survey feedback.
imho they didn't - they changed the release schedule of the BDS
component personalities.
They presented this as a response to survey feedback, what it was was a
way to look like they had responded to survey feedback. My take is that
the survey revealed what we already know - that Delphi.net and C# were a
huge mistake and what CodeGear should concentrate on is providing the
best dang tools for Win32/Win64 development.
What we got was half-baked Win32 release with some Vista sugary fancies
(that weren't actually complete/comprehensive) and an ongoing commitment
to Delphi.net and C#.
To make matters worse, the Win32 release is priced as if it comes with
the C#, C++ and Delphi .NET components, but to get these you actually
have to pay twice (i.e. add SA).
Turbo 2006 for Win32 is closer to what the survey feedback suggested was
required of CodeGear, yet not only is Delphi 2007 not a Turbo, the Turbo equiv
will actually take longer to arrive and won't be feature comparable - we
are told.
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Just because you don't always get what you want doesn't mean they
aren't open to rational business cases. And sniping (not singling you
out) doesn't count.
Neither does presenting semi-processed cocoa beans as chocolate.
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Each of us is only a single data point and making theoretical "what if"
arguments or trying to speak for anyone but ourselves isn't convincing.
If there are enough data points, CodeGear would be smart to pay
attention.
You're missing the point - we can provide any number of real data
points, but CodeGear have an unknowable number of counter-data points
(the supposed pirates).
By definition they cannot know how many such data points they have -
activation/registration tracks legitimate users not pirates. But we
somehow have to convince them that the real world data points outnumber
the unmeasurable number of data points that they THINK they have?
So we are faced with using hard data to try and convince someone that
their soft data is an incorrect basis for their position.
while Hell <>FrozenOver do
PointlessExercise ;
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And "I don't like activation" isn't a strong argument. I really don't
like activation, but I will put up with it if the pros outweigh the cons
(e.g. Delphi and Windows).
Turn it on it is head: What does activation do :for: you?
Make CG products cheaper by reducing piracy? You really think it
reduces piracy? Honestly?
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Then how important can it be to you? And don't be too surprised if
nothing changes.
Like I said, not important at all since I am perfectly happy with my D7
- as, I have to say, I find is increasingly the case with people I talk
to who are following CodeGear's progress who were waiting to see what
happened with the spin-out.
:(
However it IS important to CodeGear if they wish to get me and those of
similar mind to part with any money in the future.
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>Easy - I don't buy CG products.
That's it? You won't buy anything with activation because something
MAY happen some time in the future?
No, because things DID happen in the past and so the likelihood that
they will occur in the future is certain.
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Of course, it is your decision, but
it doesn't strike me as very pragmatic.
Pessimists are rarely disappointed.
;)
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>It's CodeGears activation policies we're talking about, not Microsoft.
Then I hope they aren't your backup plan.
Even if they were, there is a huge difference: Microsoft's future is
absolutely not as much in doubt as CodeGear's.
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Jolyon Smith
