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hosei...@yahoo.com (oracle)

Delphi Developer
Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:58:20 GMT

pascal lang. is fading away

yes it is true... my high school used to teach Pascal as a grade 12
computer science course (which involved making a game at the end of
the course!)

but now, they teach Java, and HTML (which is not a prog. lang.)

I am a computer science hopefull... I love to program and create DOS
games, only problem i getting old compilers are a {*word*75}...

I have the money to buy it, but who the {*word*30} sells it in Canada?

in other words, Pascal and other programming languages like Fortran,
Cobal etc. are slowly becoming rarer and rarer!

no one that I know of is programming in that language...

why? NO {*word*30}ING COMPILER!!!! people are lazy, they are not going to
spend lots of time trying to use the command-line {*word*99} or the freeware
version of pascal that crashes when in compile state...

hey, if you want people to remember Pascal, then give the {*word*30}ing
compiler away for free, no one makes commercial programs for it
anymore and Borland has nothing to lose other than to gain more fan
base....

so to do my part, if any one wants the Borland Pascal 7.0 compiler,
gimme an e-mail and I will send you the zip file (which is quite
small)...

 
Marco van de Voo

Delphi Developer
Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:40:50 GMT

Re:pascal lang. is fading away


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In article <5beb5a34.0107261958.5f716...@posting.google.com>, oracle wrote:
> yes it is true... my high school used to teach Pascal as a grade 12
> computer science course (which involved making a game at the end of
> the course!)

Which of course makes it pretty close to the end of pascal in the world :_)

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> but now, they teach Java, and HTML (which is not a prog. lang.)

> I am a computer science hopefull... I love to program and create DOS
> games, only problem i getting old compilers are a {*word*75}...

Then use new ones?

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> I have the money to buy it, but who the {*word*30} sells it in Canada?

Use a free one then.

Quote
> in other words, Pascal and other programming languages like Fortran,
> Cobal etc. are slowly becoming rarer and rarer!

Pascal isn't, since there is actually still new development, specially on
the Delphi side.

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> no one that I know of is programming in that language...

> why? NO {*word*30}ING COMPILER!!!! people are lazy, they are not going to
> spend lots of time trying to use the
> command-line {*word*99}

Maybe somebody going in  the CS direction should be able to handle
command-line "{*word*99}". And why is something {*word*99} because *you* can't handle it?

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> or the freeware
> version of pascal that crashes when in compile state...

It is what I think, then it is not free ware, but free software. There is a
difference.

If you have a problem with Free Software, the solution is simple: *Fix* it,
and submit your patches.

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> hey, if you want people to remember Pascal, then give the {*word*30}ing
> compiler away for free,

Why? Borland is commercial, and has nothing to gain by releasing 7.0, even
to loose:

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> no one makes commercial programs for it anymore and Borland has nothing to
> lose other than to gain more fan base....

A fan base that doesn't bring in any money, while, when annoyed enough, some
part of the former TP base might still crossover to Delphi, which *will*
make dollars for Borland.

So I don't expect to see it released for free anyday soon.

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> so to do my part, if any one wants the Borland Pascal 7.0 compiler,
> gimme an e-mail and I will send you the zip file (which is quite
> small)...

Are you asking to be forwarded to pir...@borland.com?
The Scarlet Manuk

Delphi Developer
Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:10:44 GMT

Re:pascal lang. is fading away


"Marco van de Voort" <mar...@toad.stack.nl> wrote in message
news:slrn9m2aa1.14io.marcov@toad.stack.nl...
Quote
> In article <5beb5a34.0107261958.5f716...@posting.google.com>, oracle
wrote:
> > yes it is true... my high school used to teach Pascal as a grade 12
> > computer science course (which involved making a game at the end of
> > the course!)
> Which of course makes it pretty close to the end of pascal in the world

:_)

I guess we should all just pack it in, eh?

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> > I am a computer science hopefull... I love to program and create DOS
> > games, only problem i getting old compilers are a {*word*75}...
> Then use new ones?

Getting TP 5.5 is easy. Getting the French version of TP 7.01 is easy.
In Canada, the fact that the help files are in French may not even be
a problem.

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> > I have the money to buy it, but who the {*word*30} sells it in Canada?
> Use a free one then.

I'm told it's regularly available on Ebay, too.

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> > so to do my part, if any one wants the Borland Pascal 7.0 compiler,
> > gimme an e-mail and I will send you the zip file (which is quite
> > small)...

I wonder what .zip file this could be. Possibly it's one of the compilers
on its own without the units, etc. Not really helpful I would have
thought.
The full version of BP 7.0 is fairly big for email.

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> Are you asking to be forwarded to pir...@borland.com?

Looks that way to me.

--
The Scarlet Manuka

Alan Brow

Delphi Developer
Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:55:41 GMT

Re:pascal lang. is fading away


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"oracle" <hosei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:5beb5a34.0107261958.5f716f7f@posting.google.com...
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> yes it is true... my high school used to teach Pascal as a
grade 12
> computer science course (which involved making a game at
the end of
> the course!)

Pascal is still taught in schools and universities here in
Australia
So it is still a viable language

Quote
> I am a computer science hopefull... I love to program and
create DOS
> games, only problem i getting old compilers are a {*word*75}...

"It is a poor workman who blames his tools"

Quote
> in other words, Pascal and other programming languages
like Fortran,
> Cobal etc. are slowly becoming rarer and rarer!

Never heard of Cobal, but COBOL is still used in large
industries and
government departments ( also taught at Unis)

Quote

> hey, if you want people to remember Pascal, then give the
{*word*30}ing
> compiler away for free, no one makes commercial programs
for it
> anymore and Borland has nothing to lose other than to gain
more fan
> base....

This newsgroup is here for the active users of Pascal (and
there are many
of them).  Instead of complaining why not try communicating
through the
group with the many other Pascal users, exchange ideas, ask
questions,
help others and make this newsgroup a live dynamic place for
interchange

By your language I would say you are pretty angry  -  why
not take a Stress
Management course, try meditation, chew a Valium  -  it
might help
moderate your language

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> so to do my part, if any one wants the Borland Pascal 7.0
compiler,
> gimme an e-mail and I will send you the zip file (which is
quite
> small)...

Bad, Bad boy!!
Franck pissott

Delphi Developer
Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:44:03 GMT

Re:pascal lang. is fading away


oracle a crit :

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> why? NO {*word*30}ING COMPILER!!!! people are lazy, they are not going to
> spend lots of time trying to use the command-line {*word*99} or the freeware
> version of pascal that crashes when in compile state...

> hey, if you want people to remember Pascal, then give the {*word*30}ing
> compiler away for free, no one makes commercial programs for it
> anymore and Borland has nothing to lose other than to gain more fan
> base....

on my page <http://compiler.pascaland.org> there is a list of
all pascal compilers and interpreters i know.
updated every month and next time is 1st august.
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