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Kevin Berry
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Kevin Berry
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Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...2005-09-22 01:41:23 AM delphi119 Kostya writes: QuoteAll of this Kevin. |
John Wester [Group W]
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2005-09-22 01:42:32 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
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says... Quote<snip> media. He's a carpet bagger, when will people realize that. -- John Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts |
Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
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2005-09-22 01:46:49 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Kostya writes:
Quote<q> Visibroker) is affected (and even that is conjecture unless and until information is relased by Borland) but he conveniently, and probably without any merit considering the very clear Borland statement, slides "Dephi" in there. -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html It used to be that other people's achievements were considered an inspiration, not a grievance. |
Angra Mainyu
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2005-09-22 01:48:50 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
"Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" wrote
QuoteMr. Coates' $150 million offer is significant given the company's current The price of the stock has been trending down for some time with some strange volume spikes in the past week, it will be interesting to watch what happens now. I hope the BoD have some good lawyers lined up to defend the stockholder law suits which are sure to follow and they probably need to get their golden parachutes checked 'cause this barbarian Coates is going to storm the gates and try to replace em. And this is a BoD who hasn't seen fit to appointed a replacement CEO leaving the company more or less leaderless with only an interim CEO in a time of great vulnerability. |
Bruce McGee
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2005-09-22 02:12:18 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
I think Scott Arnold referring to Delphi as a "nice little cash cow"
was a pretty unfortunate choice of words and didn't do much to reassure customers. Statements that came afterward from DevRel and this letter helped clarify things and are a lot more encouraging. And, as other people already pointed out, the quote you posted is from Coats. If you take that at face value, I have a bridge to sell you. I've always had faith in Borland's technical direction. Now I'm becoming more optimistic about their overall message. -- Regards, Bruce McGee Glooscap Software |
Bruce McGee
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2005-09-22 02:15:00 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Bruce McGee writes:
QuoteCoats Regards, Bruce McGee Glooscap Software |
Brian Moelk
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2005-09-22 02:19:14 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...Quote>"Deploy"? What does that encompass- is that essentially the old CORBA |
John Terwiske
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2005-09-22 02:21:05 AM
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A sale for $150 million in cash sounds like a premium for the legacy products and Borland's BOD was (apparently) unwise to consider it from a fiduciary standpoint. But, I don't think Coates is going to go away because of this particular rejection. He did manage to get himself on the BOD many years ago, and goodness knows he's rich as Croesus. |
Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
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2005-09-22 02:25:39 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Kevin Berry writes:
QuoteWell, it certainly sounds like Borland is doing the right thing- (Yes, Janeva is VisiBroker.) I sometimes think that people tend to write off stuff which isn't useful to them personally as useless in general. But there's a heck of a lot of CORBA in the world. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] ?Vertex Systems Corp. ?Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz IB 6 versions prior to 6.0.1.6 are pre-release and may corrupt your DBs! Open Edition users, get 6.0.1.6 from mers.com |
Brian Moelk
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2005-09-22 02:26:00 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...QuoteYou're quoting FUD from Coates. I would take that with a grain of salt. If Borland chooses not to do so, then the question of the validity of Coates' claims will remain. |
Will DeWitt Jr.
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2005-09-22 02:27:02 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Kostya wrote in <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>:
QuoteWell maybe it is better if they sold it. -- Want native support in Delphi for AMD64/EM64T? Vote here-- qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx |
Brent S.
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2005-09-22 02:38:23 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
"Bruce McGee" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
QuoteSerge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) writes: significantly more than 50% of the value of Borland (150m of 242m total). Since he didn't get it one way, maybe he is about to try another. Brent S. |
Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
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2005-09-22 02:44:20 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Brian Moelk writes:
Quote>>"Deploy"? What does that encompass- is that essentially the old -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz All the great TeamB service you've come to expect plus (New!) Irish Tin Whistle tips: learningtowhistle.blogspot.com |
Bob Dawson
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2005-09-22 02:47:47 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
"Brian Moelk" wrote
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Delphi and Deploy developers" How would Coates know this? How many is "many"? And if they came from a soon-to-be EOL product, then what's bad about keeping your known good employees around by transferring them to newer products? Coates is spinning an absolutely standard business practice here (align the workforce) as if it were something horrible. Without details, there's nothing to deny here, because without details, it is little more than a charge that the company is alive. "a chilling effect on morale at the Delphi and Deploy groups" This doesn't even make sense. Why would reaasignment of middleware developers hurt morale in the Delphi group? If anything, seeing my company work hard to reassign folks in closing divisions to expanding divisions would make me feel good. Again, this is all spin--there's no real fact here to dispute. What should Borland do--issue a "Morale is high" press release? That would just look silly. "top people have already resigned," Personnel turnover is a constant reality in any business. Without names and specific statements of reason, there's nothing here to deny--it's all spin. "others have offers for employment elsewhere" I don't really think it would be hard for any member of the Delphi team to find a new job, no. So what? bobD |
Bob Swart
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2005-09-22 02:56:52 AM
Re: Coates to buy Delphi? but... Delphi HAS value for Borland...
Hi Bob,
Quote"top people have already resigned," QuotebobD -- Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42) - Borland Technology Partner Delphi 2005 PDF manuals available from www.drbob42.com/training |