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Captain Jake

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Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)


2005-01-10 10:57:26 AM
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"Captain Jake" wrote
>One class per file? What are you talking about?
try reading the ECO newsgroups on 'ECO Modeler'.
Oh, it is an ECO thing. Ah.
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Captain Jake

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2005-01-10 11:00:21 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

Kostya <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>Why is yet another one needed? What does an Object Pascal
 >type of language offer in this regard that C# or C++ do not?
And you are the one to decide what gets the right to exist?
I do not think that when people do something they keep you
in mind.
I'll take that as an "I don't know, I have no idea, so I will just attack the
questioner instead" on your part.
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Captain Jake

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2005-01-10 11:04:06 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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We asked that is all, pretty much the sense of a newsgroup <g>
Apparently, questioning the wisdom of the great Chrome is blasphemy and
heresy. You can get excommunicated for doing it. Trust me, I know from
personal experience.
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Captain Jake

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2005-01-10 11:08:42 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

Chris Burrows <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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"Captain Jake" <jake[nospam]@jsnewsreader.com>writes
>Pascal
 >type of language offer in this regard that C# or C++ do not?
 >
The same as the Delphi language offers for Win32 development compared to
C++.
You mean Chrome and the other pascal type languages lets me use the Delphi
IDE, all my legacy Delphi code, all the same third party components that I
currently own, the VCL, and the Delphi community?
Look next time before you leap.
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Captain Jake

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2005-01-10 11:12:41 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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Then what are you doing in .NET land?
He is not in .NET land, he is in developer relations, where he is supposed to
be a liaison between the developer community, much of which uses .NET, and
internal Borland resources.
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Kostya

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2005-01-10 11:18:26 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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He is not in .NET land, he is in developer relations, where he is supposed to
be a liaison between the developer community, much of which uses .NET, and
internal Borland resources.
Well Mr. Perfect, I meant Borland.
Kostya
 
Kostya

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2005-01-10 11:22:10 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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>The same as the Delphi language offers for Win32 development compared to
 >C++.

You mean Chrome and the other pascal type languages lets me use the Delphi
IDE, all my legacy Delphi code, all the same third party components that I
currently own, the VCL, and the Delphi community?

Look next time before you leap.
You are going incoherent. He did not claim that.
Kostya
 
Captain Jake

Delphi Developer

2005-01-10 11:29:52 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

Kostya <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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Well Mr. Perfect, I meant Borland.
Well, you were replying to John Kaster. If you want to address Borland itself
you will need to figure out some way to get into their email system or their
PA system.
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Kostya

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2005-01-10 11:30:07 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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>We asked that is all, pretty much the sense of a newsgroup <g>

Apparently, questioning the wisdom of the great Chrome is blasphemy and
heresy. You can get excommunicated for doing it. Trust me, I know from
personal experience.
I've never claimed anything in regards to greatness of Chrome.
I think you are the one having particular issues with the
language. There are people that like Chrome but the majority
I'd say do not care at all about that language. MS/Borland/RO,
you can figure the proportion easy.
Kostya
 
Captain Jake

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2005-01-10 11:32:38 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

Kostya <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
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>currently own, the VCL, and the Delphi community?
 >
 >Look next time before you leap.
You are going incoherent. He did not claim that.
No, that is the point. He missed that.
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Kostya

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2005-01-10 11:33:44 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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AFAICS, he never said so.
Not specifically, but going over his multiple
posts here and in RO groups makes an impression
(to me at least) that he is somewhat unhappy
with Chrome's existence.
As for "he gets to decide" part it was a pure
sarcasm.
Kostya
 
Kostya

Delphi Developer

2005-01-10 11:35:36 AM

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No, that is the point. He missed that.

Ok. I am lost then.
Kostya
 
Chris Burrows

Delphi Developer

2005-01-10 11:36:26 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

"Captain Jake" <jake[nospam]@jsnewsreader.com>writes>>
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You mean Chrome and the other pascal type languages lets me use the Delphi
IDE, all my legacy Delphi code, all the same third party components that I
currently own, the VCL, and the Delphi community?

No, not at all - they are your words.
I mean that some people find it more productive to code in languages
belonging to the Algol / Pascal family, while others prefer coding in
languages descending from BCPL / C-style (or whatever) family.
However, currently, if anybody wants to develop for the .NET Compact
Framework the Delphi Language is not an option whereas Object Pascal,
Component Pascal etc. are.
If anybody is *ever* hoping to use the Delphi IDE, all their legacy Delphi
code, all the same third party components that they currently own, the VCL,
... to develop for the Pocket PC, then they should prepare themselves for a
big disappointment.
 
Kostya

Delphi Developer

2005-01-10 11:38:59 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

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Well, you were replying to John Kaster. If you want to address Borland itself
you will need to figure out some way to get into their email system or their
PA system.
Allow me to decide it myself. Just a hint,
when I am talking to a bank representative
I assume that I am talking to the bank but
not that particular Mr. Joe. I understand
though that he is not the one making a
decisions.
Kostya
 
Dave Nottage [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-01-10 11:42:34 AM

Re: Pascal family of languages is getting crowded :-)

Kostya writes:
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>He is not in .NET land, he is in developer relations, where he is
 >supposed to be a liaison between the developer community, much of
 >which uses .NET, and internal Borland resources.
Well Mr. Perfect, I meant Borland.
FWIW, I see many statements as interesting thoughts, but that doesn't
mean that I am going to divert from what I am already doing.
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