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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon


2005-10-14 01:32:01 AM
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Allen Bauer writes:
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None of which really require .NET 2.0 support.
What I am most eager to know (yes, I know it maybe is impossible to
tell) is when Delphi will support .Net 2.0 and *how* that will happen.
If it happens in an update, free of charge, as soon as possible after
Dexter is released, then fine.
If .Net 2.0 support means a major upgrade with a corresponding price
tag, I will be real dissatisfied.
I develop for the .Net market (components for other developers to use)
and both I and Borland have access to MS' pre-releases and betas so "we
don't support products not released" is not a very good excuse.
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Arthur Hoornweg writes:
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Borland's road map (the slide that Marco
Cantu referred to), however, shows no fewer than FOUR Delphi
versions for the next 2 1/2 years !!! My boss would {*word*241} me
if I requested all these updates.
Solution #1: Only buy the updates you care about getting, that can
signficantly increase your productivity. Older versions of Delphi are
not going to stop working just because a new version came out.
Solution #2: Buy with software assurance, and renew the SA annually.
It should be a good bargain if you do have a real interest in all four
of those upcoming releases.
Rick Carter
XXXX@XXXXX.COM
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

"Brion L. Webster" writes:
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Allen Bauer writes:

>I agree that the timing is unfortunate. However, if you only look at
>one side of the box... you're missing out on 5 other sides.

Wow - Delphi's going to start shipping in a hexagonal box?
Actually Delphi ships in a cube shaped box with 6 sides (front, back, top,
bottom and 2 sides).
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Jeff Overcash (TeamB) writes:
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Actually Delphi ships in a cube shaped box with 6 sides (front, back,
top, bottom and 2 sides).
Isn't a cube, by definition, the same size in all dimensions?
Apple's cube didn't do so well... Cobalt's didn't do that great either.
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-Brion
 

Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Wow, the sound of a forehead being slapped really carries! :)
LOL
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Ingvar Nilsen writes:
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Does that assurance cover support for .Net 2.0?
While the price is important, timing is crucial.
SA gives you all upgrades during the coverage period. So buying D2005 now
gets you an automatic update to D2006 and, if Highlander is released within
one year from now, will cover that too. Of course the idea is to keep
renewing SA, so even if Highlander were a bit later than one year, you would
still save a bundle by having, and renewing, SA every year.
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Ingvar Nilsen <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>wrote in news:434e9cf2
@newsgroups.borland.com:
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Larry Drews writes:
>Have you considered Software Assurance? With SA these kinds of
>considerations become irrelevant.

Huh?
Does that assurance cover support for .Net 2.0?
While the price is important, timing is crucial.

SA simply means that you will get the version of Delphi that supports .Net
2.0 as the earliest possible moment and you don't have to worry about
whether that is in Dexter, Highlander, or some update. Of course this
doesn't mean that you will get it any sooner than "When it is Ready", so if
your schedules/commitments really require .Net 2.0 before Borland can
deliver, then you will have to find an alternative. If your customers
insist on a concrete date, then ask them for a corresponding penalty
payment if Microsoft slips its delivery date of .Net 2.0. I think you will
find that they back off that requirement faily rapidly.
 

Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Larry Drews writes:
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Have you considered Software Assurance? With SA these kinds of
considerations become irrelevant.
Huh?
Does that assurance cover support for .Net 2.0?
While the price is important, timing is crucial.
--
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www.ingvarius.com
 

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Brion L. Webster writes:
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Isn't a cube, by definition, the same size in all dimensions?
Oh no .. here comes the "Is a rectangle a square, or is a square a
rectangle?" debate in 3D!
Run for the hills, everyone!
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Larry writes:
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so if your schedules/commitments really require .Net 2.0 before
Borland can deliver, then you will have to find an alternative.
My point from the beginning.
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If your customers insist on a concrete date, then ask them for a
corresponding penalty payment if Microsoft slips its delivery date of
.Net 2.0. I think you will find that they back off that requirement
faily rapidly.
The .Net components I develop today are to be used tomorrow. When will
you buy my components? The day after tomorrow, or tomorrow, when they
are ready from someone else?
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

John Kaster (Borland) writes:
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Brion L. Webster writes:

>Isn't a cube, by definition, the same size in all dimensions?

Oh no .. here comes the "Is a rectangle a square, or is a square a
rectangle?" debate in 3D!

Run for the hills, everyone!
Hey, it is more fun than "is top posting enlightened, or the mark of the
apocolypse", currently playing yet again in cppbuilder.non-tech. <g>
Besides, Euclidean geometry clearly specifies a rectangle has four 90?
angles, with the opposing sides being equal. A square is a special case
of a rectangle where all four sides are equal. A parallelogram, on the
other pedantic foot...
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-Brion
 

Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
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I suppose we could discuss in which year the next millenium actual
begins instead. <vbg>
No, let's not do that again, either!
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

John Kaster (Borland) writes:
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Oh no .. here comes the "Is a rectangle a square, or is a square a
rectangle?" debate in 3D!

Run for the hills, everyone!
I suppose we could discuss in which year the next millenium actual begins
instead. <vbg>
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Wayne Niddery [TeamB] writes:
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I suppose we could discuss in which year the next millenium actual
begins instead. <vbg>
No fun... Sanford's in my bozo bin. :-)
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Re: it seems Delphi may going to disappear soon

Larry Drews schreef:
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Have you considered Software Assurance? With SA these kinds of
considerations become irrelevant.
The advantage of NOT having SA is that you can skip a version or two
if newsgroup feedback of a Delphi release is as devastating as with
D8 and D2005.
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