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2008-07-17 10:40:54 PM
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Paul Scott writes:
their very complex SDK code base updated for the Unicode changes, using
Tiburon.
I'm inclined to take their actual experience over newsgroup speculation.
 

Yogi,
Just for a data point. My reload of BDS 2006 Architect takes 6 seconds
with JVCL. (don't remember if there were pieces/parts or I did the whole
thing). Still that isn't too bad.
I also have my own components and a couple of other libraries like the
compact framework stuff.
"Yogi Yang 007" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes

1) it is a well-written, well-maintained library
2) it is code that is technically complex, most legacy apps are
extensively complex
I mean that solving "complex" issues on tight code, with a relatively
low line count, that is maintained by a small number of skilled
developpers is on a completely different difficulty scale than solving
(individually) simple issues spread over millions lines of code
maintained by lots of averagely-skilled developpers.
FWIW in our own particular case, I'd have no fear about porting the
hundreds of units in our core libs, it is the thousandths of "other"
units and forms I'd be worried about ;)
Eric
 

It depends on the code. Code that was already made ready for .NET tends to
go to Tiburon easily. But there are a lot of libraries and apps that were
never made ready for .NET and will have issues going to Tiburon.
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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu writes:
OK it might a problem to get the drivers needed for the hardware... but
once you've got it running it "rocks" ;-)
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Pieter
 

is huge, but in perf Delphi 7 is still quite good. But D200x, ie post D7, the
IDE's are a lot slower.
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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu writes:
Starting first time D7, 20 seconds and closed it.
Restarting D2007, 11 seconds and closed it.
Restarting D7, 6 seconds and closed it.
Both Environments are roughly the same (packages and such).
In both cases the IDE is undocked and I am not using the embedded form
designer, that is just the way I like it!
So yes, a restart takes 5 seconds more, but that is still not enough
time to smoke a cigaret. I am really in need of a slow IDE, make that
you're priority Emba... CodeGear!!! I need a compiler where, like in
the good ol' days, a rebuild takes at least 5 minutes (a bit more would
be appreciated)!!! Please help the {*word*60}ed to have an excuse to walk
outside to enjoy our nicotine break!!!
;-)
On a more serious note I had to restart the Delphi 7 IDE a lot more while
debugging than the 2007 IDE.
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"Pieter Zijlstra" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
For me:
Delphi 7 is 7 seconds to load.
Delphi 2007 is 38 seconds to load
Visual Studio 2008 is 4 seconds to load
All in VM's with 512 MB RAM allocated to them. The host is fairly peppy:
www.kudzuworld.com/PowerfulPortable/Mark03/
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BTW for each of these tests I fresh booted a VM. One has D7, one has D2007,
one has VS2008, they are separate VMs but all identical in specs, all are XP
SP3 and built off the same core.
Then I waited for all disk activity to halt on guest and host before
launching each. They were not booted at the same time.
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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu writes:
box.
seconds, but my cup would still be empty ;-)
is loaded?
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Pieter
 

"Pieter Zijlstra" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
(usually in a positive way, but throws of benchmarks)
options it will load that dynamically, but I dont go in there most sessions,
and a 4 second load time.. Well I am willing to make some sacrifices against
a 38 second one...
PC. But when I go somewhere for a few weeks or move between summer and
winter location, etc.. it goes. :)
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Mark Tiede writes:
- ImageEn
- Apprehend
- CnPack
- CnWizards
- AbsoluteDB (Personal Edition)
- DSPack
- LMD (Freeware)
- Gr32
- Instant Objects
- JCL
- JVCL
- TAssist (An Office Assistant component)
- Virtual TreeView (and a few freeware components derived from VT)
- ZeosDB
- GExpert
That is it yet Delphi 2006 is taking ages to load and I have felt that
after installing JCL and JVCL (which I installed just before two days)
the Loading time has doubled.
My hardware configuration is PentiumD based PC with 512MB RAM and 160 GB
SATA HDD.
 

Yogi Yang 007 <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
If not... Delphi Package Selector by Bayu Prasetio:
www.torry.net/authorsmore.php
T{*word*220} what you need, when you need it, and doubling your memory would/could make a huge difference.
hth
 

Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu writes:
of most functionality.
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"Nick Hodges (Embarcadero)" writes:
newsgroup! ;-)