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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

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Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity


2005-05-20 12:19:05 AM
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Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
>Not "the" implementation. An implementation. As Danny notes, GCC
 >has a different implementation already.
Can you please confirm what German said?
Nope. German is not welcome on this forum for quite a while. Every
time we stop cancelling his replies he starts in with his personal
attacks again.
This is a professional forum. It isn't necessary to be a professional
to use it, but it is necessary to act like one.
Until German can do that, he isn't welcome here.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]

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2005-05-20 12:19:42 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
>Why me? I am not Borland.
Who then?
Since Danny brought up the issue, he would seem to be a good starting
point.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

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2005-05-20 12:19:53 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

At 18:11:35, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
>Why me? I am not Borland.
Who then?
They might want to ask Borland, perhaps someone in R&D. <g>
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:21:30 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

At 17:58:41, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
>He does?
 >
 >I mean, I don't know that he or Borland isn't committed to OS, but I
 >don't see it in the blog entry we're discussing.
 >
 >This isn't totally relevant to the discussion, as what someone
 >doesn't say usually can not be presumed to imply what they do
 >believe, but I want to make sure words aren't being put in Danny's
 >mouth.
Ok, guilty as charged.

Next question: What is Borland's official policy vis-a-vis OSS?
AFAIK, Craig already said there is no official Borland policy WRT OSS he
is aware of. I am not aware of one either.
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Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:22:18 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Craig, I am handling to many replies to at least three TeamB'ers
here.
I want to reply to your bubble sort example ... see you there.
(BTW: what has German got to do to be allowed here?)
 
Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:22:40 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

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(BTW: what has German got to do to be allowed here?)
Ok, don't answer that. <g>
 
Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:26:35 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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More likely, you'd write a quick sort or straight selection sort, etc.
Why? I want to use bubble sort because you couldn't and haven't
patented the *concept*, just your implementation.
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They don't, if they come up with a different technique.
Meneer, you are confusing the hell out of me here. First you say that
the patent is on the implementation, not the concept - which is, in all
interpretations, construed as a "technique". Now, you are saying the
opposite.
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They would
only need to ask for permission if they decide that Borland's patent
covers the only practical implementation for their needs.
Sheesh. My head hurts now.
Here's a question for you: can I implement SEH in my own way without
even looking at Borland's implementation and *yet* be in contravention
of the patent?
 
Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:27:11 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Since Danny brought up the issue, he would seem to be a good starting
point.
Ok. Good point.
 
Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:29:23 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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A development system having a compiler that allows programmers and
software developers to more efficiently develop compiled applications
with runtime exception handling support is described.
I'm sorry, that is so vague, it could mean just about anything about
exception handling. (Maybe you chose the wrong paragraph to quote.)
 
Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:36:35 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

At 18:29:23, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
><<
 >A development system having a compiler that allows programmers and
 >software developers to more efficiently develop compiled applications
 >with runtime exception handling support is described.
I'm sorry, that is so vague, it could mean just about anything about
exception handling. (Maybe you chose the wrong paragraph to quote.)
Like I said, you should read the abstract. <g>
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Abdullah Kauchali

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:50:45 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
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They might want to ask Borland, perhaps someone in R&D. <g>
Ha, I already got a name, thank you very much. <g>
 
Nick Hodges [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:55:49 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Luckily not, and that is why I say the solution to quelling the bad
publicity may be easier than dealing with irresponsible journalists
and idiots shouting at Slashdot.
I'm not sure there is a solution for either one. I am certain there
isn't a solution for the idiots at Slashdot.
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Nick Hodges [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:56:26 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Apparently I assumed that Borland had an official policy that
reiterates its commitment towards OSS. That assumption, apparently,
is either premature or ill-informed.
Actually, I was wondering how Wayne was disagreeing with Danny.
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]

Delphi Developer

2005-05-20 12:56:55 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

At 18:50:45, 19.05.2005, Abdullah Kauchali writes:
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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] writes:
>They might want to ask Borland, perhaps someone in R&D. <g>
Ha, I already got a name, thank you very much. <g>
Yeah well, one of my cancels got stuck and obstructed my outbasket. I had
actually written that before Craig's message appeared here.
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Nick Hodges [TeamB]

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2005-05-20 12:57:40 AM

Re: Borland helps Open Source comunity

Craig Stuntz [TeamB] writes:
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Until German can do that, he isn't welcome here.
Interesting post on this very issue on Coding Horror today:
www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000295.html
Made me realize that our rules are good ones.
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