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2004-06-05 07:38:42 PM
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At 23:59:47, 04.06.2004, John Kaster (Borland) writes:
somewhere on sourceforge. That means they are perhaps not as prominent,
so Z seems to overlook them.
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of them (just browse through the links on the Jedi homepage)
Z
 

There was a time when you could walk into any technical library
and find dozens of Delphi books prominently placed, covering everything
from introduction to component design to database or graphics.
Nowadays, all you will find are books for C/C++, Java, C#, VB, PHP, etc.
just about anything but Delphi, and even on online shops, these Delphi
books are often well hidden and typically outdated.
Z
 

zedd writes:
any bookshop, be it a tech one. I am not sure about "le monde en tique"
in Paris, though. But that is all.
Currently, you're lucky if you find even ONE Delphi book.
But I think this point doesn't mean much: Delphi is very
self-explanatory for beginners. And for people wanting to dig into IT
techs, *any* book can do. Delphi is the programmer's 4x4. <g>
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"zedd" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
have a future.
There is no future in JEDI without a 64-bit Delphi compiler. it is that
simple.
The whole point of JEDI was to port Win32 C++ headers to Delphi right?
The path forward would be to port (or simple update/recompile) Win64 C++
headers to Delphi/64....
(something is missing...)
-d
 

"zedd" <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes
 

At 16:43:36, 05.06.2004, Dennis Landi writes:
products, also for .NET and Kylix. Win64 is not the only future, and I
guess .NET is a very likely upgrade path for many.
The *starting* point for JEDI was the conversion of headers. JEDI is a
lot more, nowadays. It is the base for many Open Source projects.
in that respect, for JEDI. <g>
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"zedd" wrote
gone by the wayside. the local B&N used to have four rows of programming
titles--now down to two, and half of that is web stuff (HTML, dreamweaver).
Bottom line: mass market tech books and sites like Torry's were driven
mostly by enthusiasts--basically us, only younger. New generation takes PCs
more for granted. The market is back to the pros.
Sites like Torrys had the additional problem of being usefull basically as
clearing houses, and that function has been superceded by Google. Need to
know about Delphi and some specific issue, and some code to study? Google
it. I haven't visited Torry's in a quite a while.
bobD
 

I don't see how your explanation explains that only Delphi
is missing, it is definetely not hard to find litterature
for C/C++ (even pure C), Fortran (spotted a couple just yesterday),
Java, PHP, C# (plenty for these, from dummy level to guru),
and even obscure languages like Haskell or Eiffel had a book
each in the tech section of the local library. Delphi had none.
Your Torry theory also doesn't fit the reality of what happens
for C/C++, Java or C#, for which you can find many active sites,
offering pro and non-pro components and libraries (as you said,
google is your friend, won't take you long to find major sites
that catter to generalist and about any specific audience for these
languages).
If what you say is that Delphi is morphing from a general, mainstream
development language to an obscure tool used by some in niches,
I do agree that is what is happening, but I don't agree it is a change
for the better at all, that won't attract new Delphi users, and is
bound to scare away existing ones (like me).
First step to solving a problem is ackowledging it exists, denying
it or finding excuses won't make it go away.
Z
 

zedd writes:
and others, and other sites such as BDN, CodeCentral and QC are
update more than daily.
Too bad if you don't find any value in them; I expect many do.
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zedd writes:
there was years ago.
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zedd <XXXX@XXXXX.COM>writes:
Even the Lisp, Smalltalk and Ada niches keep talking about how their language
is going to take over the world.
As a language become less mainstream , only the fanatics remain.
And the fanatics are blind to any problems.
 

Dave Nottage (TeamB) writes:
Myers. I got the same level of e{*word*277}ment when discovering Corbin is
now blogging. :-)
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around 3 years ago.
The Delphi books have all been tossed out.
Only one JBuilder and one BCB book is left.
Over the same time, they have bought around four or five hundred programming
books ( unix , oracle ,java, C++, C# ) and at least 50 MS specific
( NET C# Visual studio VB(Visual Basic) ) books.
 

I R T writes:
the world. They have more sense than that..
the value of Delphi.
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